Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 02, 2020 15:53:36

"The ten blacks"

Wtf

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Thu Jul 02, 2020 15:55:00

Seriously. Just stay away
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Thu Jul 02, 2020 19:14:53

I’d be really surprised if Biden’s VP pick isn’t Susan Rice
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine! » Thu Jul 02, 2020 19:34:26

Stay_Disappointed wrote:I’d be really surprised if Biden’s VP pick isn’t Susan Rice


Twitter thinks it's Kamala Harris.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Thu Jul 02, 2020 19:50:53

thephan wrote:
Judicial Watch went to court Wednesday demanding access to paint the streets of Washington with its own political message after the city wrote “Black Lives Matter” on one street and allowed protesters to paint “Defund the Police” next to it.

The conservative group said the city has effectively turned its roadways into a public forum, and so it must allow those with differing viewpoints than BLM protesters to have the same access, or else it’s violating the First Amendment.

They don't follow Can-spam laws. I've opted out a half dozen times from their emails, which I've never signed up, and yet the emails continue.

Edit: I went to my chrome history. I lied. I opted out on April 29, and I continue to receive emails (got one a few days ago). Since I opted out, I mark all subsequent emails as spam so that their standing with gmail's algorithms may be negatively effected.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Jul 02, 2020 19:59:09

Werthless wrote:
thephan wrote:
Judicial Watch went to court Wednesday demanding access to paint the streets of Washington with its own political message after the city wrote “Black Lives Matter” on one street and allowed protesters to paint “Defund the Police” next to it.

The conservative group said the city has effectively turned its roadways into a public forum, and so it must allow those with differing viewpoints than BLM protesters to have the same access, or else it’s violating the First Amendment.

They don't follow Can-spam laws. I've opted out a half dozen times from their emails, which I've never signed up, and yet the emails continue.

Edit: I went to my chrome history. I lied. I opted out on April 29, and I continue to receive emails (got one today). Since I opted out, I mark all subsequent emails as spam so that their standing with gmail's algorithms may be negatively effected.

Them and WWE. I've opted out of them 6 times now and still get their emails. What a maneuver by them.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jul 02, 2020 20:18:26

TenuredVulture wrote:Pretty good article on polling and the 2016 race
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ng/613690/

Key quote:

So one reason to trust my polls more now than in 2016 is this change: Four years ago, those without a four-year degree made up 48 percent of my survey respondents; today they account for 60 percent. Whites without a college degree were 33 percent of my surveys; today they are 43 percent. That is a huge change—an elixir against being deceived again. The pain of Trump’s victory and disastrous presidency has concentrated the minds of campaign staff and the polling profession in ways that give me confidence that Biden’s lead in the polls is real.

I think a lot of this is true, with the caveat that pollsters didn't know what we were fucking up last time until after the fact, so not sure we'd know now that we're doing a good job.

Would add as Nate Silver is fond of pointing out, the direction of polling error is hard to anticipate in advance and there is a tendency for polling errors to be in the opposite direction than conventional wisdom expects. I think intuitively that makes some sense - pollsters are laser focused on getting getting WWC voters w/o bachelors degrees. Who are we missing this time around? Maybe not paying enough attention to the growing Asian electorate, which is also increasingly Democratic, or primarily Spanish speaking Hispanics who might vote differently than English speaking ones or god knows what else. If polling underestimated Trump last time, pollsters focused on fixing what was wrong with why they did that, probably at the expense of ignoring other changing factors that could benefit Biden.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Thu Jul 02, 2020 20:43:32

Doll Is Mine! wrote:
Stay_Disappointed wrote:I’d be really surprised if Biden’s VP pick isn’t Susan Rice


Twitter thinks it's Kamala Harris.


Yeah, I’d be shocked if it wasn’t her. She brings way more money to the table than Rice.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Jul 02, 2020 21:34:29

Can't see Susan Rice. Think they want someone people view as a potential successor. National Security Advisor and UN Ambassador falls short of that IMO.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jul 02, 2020 22:27:04

Uncle Milty wrote:Can't see Susan Rice. Think they want someone people view as a potential successor. National Security Advisor and UN Ambassador falls short of that IMO.


Maybe but, at least based on her campaign, I’m not sure she’s Chief Executive material. Her campaign seemed almost totally devoid of policy proposals and the organization and execution of the campaign itself seemed pretty lackluster. Also, in the current climate I’m not sure her prosecutorial background works in her favor.

I’m wondering if it won’t end up being someone a bit under the radar like Tammy Duckworth or Val Demings.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jul 03, 2020 02:19:22

The Savior wrote:Remember, he barely won in 2016. These stories don’t need to shift a massive number of votes. Just need to take some here and a few there and these things add up.

This will 100% hurt him with republicans and indys in Virginia and NC and Texas.



You say that as if everything else is the same. He is now in charge of our intel agencies and national security apparatus. Maybe he'll just open the door and invite foreign help in this time. No need to be clandestine when you are president, above the law, and can ignore subpoenas. The Senate opened Pandora's box. There are dozens of things he could do now to help his chances that he couldn't do as a mere candidate. And he's willing to do every single one of them. No red line in the sand for him.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Fri Jul 03, 2020 06:40:35

JFLNYC wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:Can't see Susan Rice. Think they want someone people view as a potential successor. National Security Advisor and UN Ambassador falls short of that IMO.


Maybe but, at least based on her campaign, I’m not sure she’s Chief Executive material. Her campaign seemed almost totally devoid of policy proposals and the organization and execution of the campaign itself seemed pretty lackluster. Also, in the current climate I’m not sure her prosecutorial background works in her favor.

I’m wondering if it won’t end up being someone a bit under the radar like Tammy Duckworth or Val Demings.


I'm not a big Harris fan. Of course I'm not a big fan of any possible VP candidates (or politicians in general). Guess I'm looking at it the same way that made Biden my top choice - best chance to win.

Who will alienate the least/inspire the most voters? Who will voters accept as potential commander in chief? Who's qualified to become "leader of the free world" after Biden?

There's no single answer to those questions. Of the rumored names Duckworth and Harris are probably my top 2.

Coincidentally The Atlantic just published a short piece on Duckworth. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... te/613753/
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Fri Jul 03, 2020 07:09:22

Monkeyboy wrote:
The Savior wrote:Remember, he barely won in 2016. These stories don’t need to shift a massive number of votes. Just need to take some here and a few there and these things add up.

This will 100% hurt him with republicans and indys in Virginia and NC and Texas.



You say that as if everything else is the same. He is now in charge of our intel agencies and national security apparatus. Maybe he'll just open the door and invite foreign help in this time. No need to be clandestine when you are president, above the law, and can ignore subpoenas. The Senate opened Pandora's box. There are dozens of things he could do now to help his chances that he couldn't do as a mere candidate. And he's willing to do every single one of them. No red line in the sand for him.


The Republicans in the Senate and Congress were still there....(who kept Russia Interference quiet)
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:53:28

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby TomatoPie » Fri Jul 03, 2020 13:22:37

Maya Wiley is running for NYC mayor.

She is spectacular, I hope it's just a stop on her way to a higher office

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Fri Jul 03, 2020 13:33:01

TomatoPie wrote:Maya Wiley is running for NYC mayor.

She is spectacular, I hope it's just a stop on her way to a higher office

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She's been on MSNBC a number of times I think. Seems very bright, not just a talking head type.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine! » Fri Jul 03, 2020 14:41:43

I like her as well. I'll wait to see who else runs but she's someone I'd definitely vote for.

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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 21:44:10

Holy shit, protesters in SD took they wheels off their cars blocking Rushmore.

In other news Trump is turning the 4th into a political event on the public dime. should charge the campaign for the trip to SD, the firework, rent for the use of public lands, then repeat for DC's events.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Fri Jul 03, 2020 22:21:25

Juniors GF has the covid. Apparently Junior does not.

Both are in SD.
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Re: Statues of Limitations: Politics Thread

Postby CFP » Fri Jul 03, 2020 22:36:19

The Savior wrote:Juniors GF has the covid. Apparently Junior does not.

Both are in SD.

They’re driving home

https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/12 ... 17504?s=21

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