Black Lives F*ing Matter, Jesus F*ing Christ (civil rights)

Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby momadance » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:19:34

Not even the union wants to touch this one...

The union that represents New Jersey’s 6,000 corrections officers, PBA Local 105, said in a statement that under “no circumstance do we condone nor will we ever tolerate actions and expressions of discrimination, harassment and hatred” of the sort engaged in by the counterprotesters.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/nyre ... otest.html

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:46:56

Lol wow. As ben Davis would say, he is F-U-K-T fukt
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Bucky » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:39:31

Bill McNeal wrote:Lol wow. As ben Davis would say, he is F-U-K-T fukt



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Bucky » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:40:37

momadance wrote:Good luck ever finding a worthwhile job ever again.


hey, if aqua hired turzai, maybe they'll hire these clowns too

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:07:17

NASCAR banned the confederate flag at its events - https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1270819350644211719

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:10:19

That's good.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Werthless » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:32:04

PSUsarge wrote:NASCAR banned the confederate flag at its events - https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1270819350644211719

I love reading comments of the people that disagree with it.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby thephan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:37:51

President Trump said Wednesday he "will not even consider" renaming Army bases that were named for Confederate military leaders after top Pentagon officials indicated recently they are open to the idea.

In a series of tweets, Trump argued the bases have become part of U.S. history that should not be "tampered with."

"These Monumental and very Powerful Bases have become part of a Great American Heritage, and a history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom," he tweeted, adding that "HEROES" who won two world wars were trained on the "Hallowed Grounds" of the bases.

"Therefore, my Administration will not even consider the renaming of these Magnificent and Fabled Military Installations," Trump continued.


He's all in on the base, and does not give a shit about non-white humans. Race past BLM and go right to honoring traitors rebelling against the United States to assure slavery as a way of wealth.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5021 ... te-leaders
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Gimpy » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:39:31

and a history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom

Yea, the perfect three words to describe the Confederacy.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby thephan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:41:20

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Werthless » Wed Jun 10, 2020 17:51:48

Gimpy wrote:
and a history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom

Yea, the perfect three words to describe the Confederacy.

Lol, it's almost like he's saying that the bases are no longer associated with the Losing, Defeat, and Enslavement of the Confederacy.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 19:42:23

PSUsarge wrote:NASCAR banned the confederate flag at its events - https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1270819350644211719


I remember reading that after "Supersize Me" came out and McDonald's became the focal point of so much heightened food consciousness, McDonald's starting futzing with their menu trying to maintain their "fan base" but de-stigmatize their "brand." Meanwhile, Burger King, which was largely ignored during the same period by people who were slamming McDonald's for the poor nutrition and food it served particularly in poor neighborhoods, doubled down on their throw-caution-to-the-wind offerings while McDonald's scrambled to somehow be what it was but also pleasing to people who wouldn't have eaten there anyway.

All of this is to say I expect some enterprising asshole to start the Continental Stockcar Association and let people wave "whatever" flag they - haha - "want."
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jun 10, 2020 19:52:46

PSUsarge wrote:NASCAR banned the confederate flag at its events - https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1270819350644211719

Great day for all 7 non-white fans

The comments are glorious,
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby momadance » Wed Jun 10, 2020 19:59:29

Hate participation trophies. Love participation flags and statues.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby thephan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 21:15:13

Some Jackhole from Hazelton bitching about statues being reconciled
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby The Dude » Wed Jun 10, 2020 21:36:10

Context?
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby phatj » Wed Jun 10, 2020 22:41:32

Friend of mine from high school posted the following on Facebook:

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June 8 at 7:07 AM · Shared with Public
Meet Brandon Tatum
Brandon Tatum is a former Tucson Police Officer and served as the Director of Urban Outreach at Turning Point USA. He is the Founder and CEO of The Officer Tatum, LLC.
His open letter :
“Woke” white people, I’d like to ask you a favor:
Please stop asking for forgiveness for your “white privilege.”
You’re not fooling anybody. You’re not helping black people—or any other minority. And your public confessions don’t make you look virtuous. They make you look disingenuous, which is a really nice way of saying fake, phony, and fraudulent.
For starters, what is “white privilege” anyway? Because you were born with white skin, you have all these advantages that I don’t have?
Like what?
Like, you can get a mortgage loan that I can’t get?
Hmm. I got a loan—at a great rate, by the way—and I got the house. Why would a banker not give a loan to someone who met the loan requirements? He doesn’t want to make money? I’ve never heard of such a banker.
Or, how about this: You can enter a store and not be looked upon with suspicion, but I—a black person—cannot. Except...that has never happened to me.
But if I was a young dude with my pants hanging down to my butt, I could understand why a store owner would be concerned. I used to be a cop. Believe me, I understand. If I owned the store, I’d be tracking that kid, too—whether he was black, white, or anything else.
Or, what if I had a store that had a history of being shoplifted by young black women, and a young black woman with a bad attitude walked in. Would I be suspicious? Yeah, I would. Who wouldn’t?
I call that common sense, not bigotry.
But there’s another way of looking at this: In many ways, in today’s America, blacks have more privilege than whites. It’s been my experience that whites bend over backwards to give blacks every possible advantage.
If two people are equally qualified for a job, the black person will usually get it. Big companies and prestigious universities fall all over one another trying to sign up talented black people.
If you deny this, you are denying reality.
Which is what the person who dreamed up this whole thing did—a professor of women’s studies at Wellesley College by the name of Peggy McIntosh. She wrote an article in 1988 about all the “white privilege” she thought she had. She listed 46, including this one: “I can choose…bandages in ‘flesh’ color and have them more or less match my skin.” Wow, that’s some kind of privilege!
Soon others took up the cause.
Today, these so-called progressives dominate our colleges and universities, imposing this absurd notion of white privilege on their students. That’s too bad. Because it does nothing good for white students. And it does nothing good for black students. But of the two, ironically, the white students get the better of the deal.
Let me explain:
To acknowledge your white privilege is supposed to make you feel bad. Only it doesn’t. It makes you feel good because by acknowledging your white privilege, you’re declaring yourself to be enlightened. And as a virtue-bonus, it also makes you a better person than those whites who don’t acknowledge their privilege.
White privilege, which is supposed to make you feel bad, ends up making you feel good. Meanwhile, the real damage is to blacks. What makes whites feel good makes blacks angry.
More than 50 years after the start of the Civil Rights movement, the message is: “You’re still oppressed.” How can this not create a victim mentality? And anyone—of any color—who sees himself as a victim gets angry.
Now, I wouldn’t deny for a second that there are privileges in life. They’re all over the place. There’s two-parent family privilege (that’s huge); there’s being lucky to be born in America privilege; there’s good gene privilege. But white privilege? Doesn’t it depend on the person?
Let’s take this, for example: A black lawyer and his wife have a baby. And a meth addict, single white woman has a baby. Which kid has privilege? The white one? Because he’s white?
Come on now.
And here’s the kicker: Even if it were true—all those claims about white privilege, so what? Would it change a single thing I did? If white people apologize for being white, is that supposed to help me? In what way?
So, let’s be real: White privilege is an attempt by the left to divide Americans by race.
It’s all theory and all nonsense. If you want to fall for it, go ahead—it’s a free country. But don’t try to sell it to me.
I’m an American who deals with my fellow Americans one-on-one.
Try it. It works.
I’m Brandon Tatum for Prager University
***** I will not engage in or tolerate ANY negative comments. I will delete any comments in opposition.... this is offering a new and different perspective from a BLACK MAN... you will not change anyone’s heart by posting defensive opinions ******. There are A lot of people who need to hear this !!


I have already responded at length but wondering what points I might have missed.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby phatj » Wed Jun 10, 2020 22:46:38

I actually responded once, then a second time after he responded to my response:

I shouldn't have to explain this to you, as you are an intelligent guy and have access to Google as well.
First off, Brandon Tatum is a former cop. Not really interested in his viewpoint right now, as a member of a de facto fascist, racist institution, unless he's explaining how awful the police are in general or recommending meaningful solutions. The police exist to maintain social order, and that order is steeped in centuries of racism, regardless of the letter of the law. Second, he is apparently speaking for Turning Point USA which is an appalling organization and also maybe works for PragerU which is also terrible. I gather you're conservative and your opinions of these differs from mine. Fine. Moving on...
He starts by asking white people to stop asking forgiveness for their white privilege. This is disingenuous from the start, as I'm not sure who is doing that because it's nobody that I've seen. Plenty of my white friends have been *acknowledging* their privilege though, and that's a step.
Tatum fundamentally misunderstands (or perhaps disingenuously misinterprets) what white privilege means. It might be better re-framed as "black [or BIPOC] disprivilege." It does not mean that all white people automatically get things that black people do not, just that their skin color is not something that holds them back. You, as a white person, might not feel this in your bones, but you should already be aware of it because of your many friends who have been lighting up Facebook the last couple of weeks.
He asks "Why would a banker not give a loan to someone who met the loan requirements?" He perhaps should look up the history of redlining, as should you. The fact that he was able to obtain a loan does not mean that this is equally accessible to all black people.
"Or, how about this: You can enter a store and not be looked upon with suspicion, but I—a black person—cannot. Except...that has never happened to me.
"But if I was a young dude with my pants hanging down to my butt, I could understand why a store owner would be concerned. I used to be a cop. Believe me, I understand. If I owned the store, I’d be tracking that kid, too—whether he was black, white, or anything else."
This... wow. It sounds like he only goes into stores when dressed in his Sunday best, or at least he puts on his big boy pants. Good for him! Whatever. It clearly misunderstands, or evades, the point that black people are disproportionately targeted, harrassed, arrested, and prosecuted for this kind of "crime".
"If two people are equally qualified for a job, the black person will usually get it. Big companies and prestigious universities fall all over one another trying to sign up talented black people."
This is so amazingly wrong I don't even know where to start. I see you went to BYU... were there lot of black students there? (I see that BYU is currently reporting 0% Black or African American students, maybe this was different in the mid-90s?) Then you went to OSU for graduate studies... did you see a lot of black faces there? Remember I grew up in the same town you did... I think we both know the answer. Do you think if BYU or OSU was clamoring for more talented black people you might have seen more? Then we get to the corporate world. I don't know your employment history but I personally have worked for three different companies where black people were either entirely absent from the workforce, underrepresented in the extreme, and/or underrepresented in management. Is your experience different?
Shall I continue?


I accept the criticism that I was too dismissive of Tatum's views. No black person's voice is any more or less valid than another's. And as a white person I certainly am in no position to deny his experience.
That said, let me clarify a couple of things.
While his own experiences are certainly valid, he is arguing against a straw man using made-up facts, and he can and should be called out as "wrong" for this. White privilege does not mean what he thinks it means (or what he's pretending it means), and just because he says "If you deny this, you are denying reality" doesn't make it so.
I did not say that all cops are fascists and racists, I said that the police *as an institution* is fascist and racist. Many individual officers may well be anti-fascist and anti-racist (imagine the cognitive dissonance!) but still part of that institution and therefore part of the problem, unless they're actively, VOCALLY, working to fix the system from within. And please, spare me the copaganda about police kneeling/marching alongside protesters. Talk about virtue signalling... I've read several accounts of cops who did this for a photo op and them immediately resumed normal brutality services. Not saying this is the norm of course, but I assume these kinds of things are insincere unless proven otherwise.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Jun 10, 2020 22:49:12

I’ve noticed a lot of the racists post things like that. “Look! This black guy voted for trump/doesn’t think police brutality is a thing/says it’s ok for white people to say the n word/etc.” to justify their shitty views.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby phatj » Wed Jun 10, 2020 23:05:52

Oh for sure. This guy seems woker than most as he, on the same day, posted why "All Lives Matter" is a particularly shitty response to "Black Lives Matter". So I think he might just be pre-enlightened.
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