pacino wrote:Why would Ted Cruz voluntarily bring up Jim Jordan's time covering up rape at Ohio State

A he he he

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Wait, is this THEE Ted Cruz? Holy shit man! Is this the same guy let little Donnie call his wife A dog and his father an assassin and now kisses his ass? Yo, can I get your autograph man?

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I tell you what teddy boy, since mentioning jim jordan and wrestling is... problematic, why don’t we say fuck him and just make it you & me. I’ll give 50k to Black Lives Matter and you can keep all the tax payer money you were thinking of spending.

pacino wrote:Why would Ted Cruz voluntarily bring up Jim Jordan's time covering up rape at Ohio State

Why is a fucking United States Senator engaging in a twitter war of words like he is in high school in the first place?

I can't tell if your question is serious TD. And this time in this place being a buffoon on Twitter is normal especially so if not even more so or senior government elected officials

thephan wrote:I can't tell if your question is serious TD. And this time in this place being a buffoon on Twitter is normal especially so if not even more so or senior government elected officials

TD with the magic johnson, no look behind the back bounce pass.... surprised nobody wanted to do a double pump 360 slam. i would've and was tempted, but didn't want to hit the back of the rim and come out. don't want to mess something up that pretty.

and you just bobbled it and it went out of bounds. lol

Supreme Court weighed in that workers cannot be fired for being gay or transgender. Asserted that this is covered under the 1964 civil Rights act. And both gorsuch and Roberts weighed in on the protection of these rights.

Seems I'm about 4 hours behind (other page) but still great news.

A reasonably reputable Arkansas poll has Biden down 2 points to Trump. Most certainly an outlier, and for some reason they used a likely voter screen (maybe because the RV numbers looked even worse?) but still I think they may have run into a big Trump voter refusal problem .

https://talkbusiness.net/2020/06/poll-i ... -arkansas/

what is a trump voter refusal problem

People who intend to vote for Trump refuse to answer polls. There's evidence that people who support the President are less likely to answer polls when he's messing up.

so you're saying trump is probably up by more than that? Aren't other polls showing sleepy joe ahead?

TenuredVulture wrote:People who intend to vote for Trump refuse to answer polls. There's evidence that people who support the President are less likely to answer polls when he's messing up.

So, all the time?

Bucky wrote:so you're saying trump is probably up by more than that? Aren't other polls showing sleepy joe ahead?

It's Arkansas. Trump won by 20 points in 2016. If Biden is even close here, it means landslide Democratic victory.

There’s a poll out there with Biden +17 in aggregate in swing states won by trump (PA WI MI FL NC OH). He’s +14 nationally in that poll.

TenuredVulture wrote:

Bucky wrote:so you're saying trump is probably up by more than that? Aren't other polls showing sleepy joe ahead?

It's Arkansas. Trump won by 20 points in 2016. If Biden is even close here, it means landslide Democratic victory.

ohhhh mark kelly is arizona, not arkansas

saw a poll with him and biden winning

i get all those A states confused

Instead of flyover country Bucky has Dew-free Country

I really do think Trump voters are too embarrassed to say they are voting for him, or say they are voting for Biden so they can say the polls are fake news.

heyeaglefn wrote:I really do think Trump voters are too embarrassed to say they are voting for him, or say they are voting for Biden so they can say the polls are fake news.

don't know about the fake news part... but i think the first part was why the polls were off with the last election and probably will be a bit off with this one.

They were a normal amount off (a few percent)...it just happened to be in the 'wrong' direction and in a large enough margin to swing the election.

And national polls were actually quite close...there was just a systemic error mainly among white non college educated voters.

I bet the number of "embarrassed" Trump voters is pretty small. Most of his supporters are quite vocal about it. There are those who think the GOP of yore still exists who might not express their intent to vote for him.

JUburton wrote:They were a normal amount off (a few percent)...it just happened to be in the 'wrong' direction and in a large enough margin to swing the election.

And national polls were actually quite close...there was just a systemic error mainly among white non college educated voters.

And, as Silverman points out, clusters of states tend to swing together.

TenuredVulture wrote:

JUburton wrote:They were a normal amount off (a few percent)...it just happened to be in the 'wrong' direction and in a large enough margin to swing the election.

And national polls were actually quite close...there was just a systemic error mainly among white non college educated voters.

And, as Silverman points out, clusters of states tend to swing together.

Aren't swingers shunned in Arkansas and southern Missouri?