Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby The Savior » Mon Jun 08, 2020 19:23:16

Barr goes off script and says Trump went to bunker because there were safety concerns not to inspect.

Guess if the Press Secretary is going to keep laying blame on him for physical violence on protesters, that he’s gonna push back.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Jun 08, 2020 19:23:32

TIL there's a gerrymander font, thanks to Jeopardy.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby pacino » Mon Jun 08, 2020 21:13:29

i was told today that the good economy is going to get Trump re-elected
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jun 08, 2020 21:16:37

pacino wrote:i was told today that the good economy is going to get Trump re-elected


How's your portfolio looking??

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Jun 08, 2020 21:19:18

"No woman can call herself free who does not control her own body."

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Jun 08, 2020 22:22:17

pacino wrote:i was told today that the good economy is going to get Trump re-elected

His ads seem to think that's it's the right tactic. I was amazed how quickly they had a "2.5 million jobs created in May" ad ready to go after the jobs report.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jun 09, 2020 00:06:45

It's one of the reasons he'll be tough in Nov. He is willing and maybe now even able to use every part of government on his behalf. They will lie about every part of the economy they can lie about. The CBO will be a target.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Jun 09, 2020 00:49:05

The CBO won't be a target. a) It's insulated from the executive branch. b) there are maybe four swing voters in the entire country who know what the CBO is.

Pick a better conspiracy theory

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jun 09, 2020 02:36:02

jerseyhoya wrote:The CBO won't be a target. a) It's insulated from the executive branch. b) there are maybe four swing voters in the entire country who know what the CBO is.

Pick a better conspiracy theory


As I understand it, he CBO reports on how much things cost and the likely financial outcomes of possible policy. They are usually considered a neutral party. If Trump and the GOP suggest something to "help" the economy, won't the CBO be responsible for calculating its cost? And couldn't they come under attack if they say something he doesn't like?

My point was that he is trying to politicize every part of government, even the parts that are not typically politicized. People don't usually attack the CBO because they are bipartisan, but I can imagine that situation happening in this economic crisis when how we spend trillions of economic relief will be under scrutiny.

If you want to hammer away at reality, the CBO is a good place to go.

And I'm not sure what conspiracy you are referring to. Saying Trump is politicizing the government isn't a conspiracy theory. It's front page news every day.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Squire » Tue Jun 09, 2020 07:14:58

Sort of a bizarre poll out of Kentucky posted today. Its RV not LV. Also it was conducted 5/21-5/24 so it was before the current protests, etc. Showed Trump up 17 on Biden in Kentucky but McConnell down 1 to McGrath.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 07:52:29

On Monday, Richmond Circuit Court judge Bradley B. Cavedo granted a request by attorneys for William C. Gregory that would halt any of the preparation work involved in removing the statue from its 130-year-old residence on Monument Avenue.

In the order, Cavedo said Northam’s directive is a violation of an 1890 deed filed in Henrico County stating the commonwealth “guaranteed” to place the 12-ton statue and its 40-foot pedestal in its existing location and to “faithfully guard it and affectionately protect it.”


This sounds like a scenario with a "friendly judge" citing a promise to promote the myth that there are southern heroes fighting against the North's systematic oppression of owners of humans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virgi ... spartanntp

Relatedly, The Monument Avenue Preservation Group sounds like a front for plain old closeted confederates. I wonder is they have a go fund me for a Adolf Eichmann and Theodor Eicke to be placed on Fredrichsrasse.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 09:18:12

“It’s Pence being Pence,” said one senior administration official, who claimed the vice president declined to join Trump at St. John’s out of deference. “It was a presidential moment, a moment for him to be out there alone.”


Right. Pence is a political animal with some sense of the game and strategically decided to sit this one out. He was waiting for Trump at the WH.

At the same time there is this:

“I do have some concerns about the president’s remarks as far as tone,” Reverand Charles Harrison, the Pence ally, said. “I haven’t heard the vice president’s remarks since these protests began, but I am hoping to talk to him very soon.”


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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby CFP » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:01:20

Looks like major issues with a lot of the machines in Georgia today, not enough poll workers, not enough provisional ballots, etc.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby momadance » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:14:12

CFP wrote:Looks like major issues with a lot of the machines in Georgia today, not enough poll workers, not enough provisional ballots, etc.


Who'd a thunk?

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:57:04

one reason we can't get rid of police and detectives is the internet is really bad at this kind of stuff

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06 ... -ride.html

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:19:14



That's an eye grabber headline. Too bad its family above reality because the country would be better for it.

Last week, Trump’s former defense secretary James Mattis released a blistering statement criticizing Trump’s use of military force to clear peaceful protesters from Lafayette Square so Trump could stage a photo op outside of a church. Mattis had agonized for months about whether to speak out, a person close to him told me. Mattis told people that Trump is a “proto-neofascist” but Mattis worried it would politicize the military if he denounced Trump. “Mattis’s thinking was, you can’t involve the military in politics, plus Trump could go haywire,” said the source. But Lafayette Square changed his thinking.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby JUburton » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:48:46

CalvinBall wrote:one reason we can't get rid of police and detectives is the internet is really bad at this kind of stuff

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06 ... -ride.html
well i dont think anyone's calling for reddit to take over murder cases but given that over the last 20 years, murders only have about a 58% clearance rate and how absolutely abysmal the solve rate is on crimes against women and the overall mentality regarding rape (including an excellent 33% clearance rate of those that even get reported) and sexual assault, maybe a radical change is in order.

edit: i know you were mostly having a jape but yeah, fuck the police

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 13:45:01

The agency's failure to produce coherent data in response to regular (and expected) FOIA requests is inexplicable. What’s more, it makes it more difficult to identify and correct problems the immigration court is having, it prevents congress from conducting meaningful oversight, and it makes it impossible for the public to know how well the immigration court system is actually functioning.


Why would anyone be surprised by the lack of transparency from the administration. This over anything else?

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration ... r-is-trump
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 09, 2020 14:14:24

Trump's tweet on protester sparks GOP backlash


in other news Shocked GOP Senators unanimously support rebranding June national Donald J Trump adoration month.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Jun 09, 2020 14:36:10

JUburton wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:one reason we can't get rid of police and detectives is the internet is really bad at this kind of stuff

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06 ... -ride.html
well i dont think anyone's calling for reddit to take over murder cases but given that over the last 20 years, murders only have about a 58% clearance rate and how absolutely abysmal the solve rate is on crimes against women and the overall mentality regarding rape (including an excellent 33% clearance rate of those that even get reported) and sexual assault, maybe a radical change is in order.

edit: i know you were mostly having a jape but yeah, fuck the police


Yes. Was purely a joke about how often the doxxers dox the wrong person. I remember when they solved the Boston Marathon Bombing 17 times over.

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