JFLNYC wrote:It’s kind of a split decision on religious leaders’ support of Trump’s photo op:

But in the religious constituency Donald Trump cares most about, and for whom the stunt was almost certainly designed, the reaction was very different, as McKay Coppins reports:

A few hours after the dystopian spectacle, I spoke on the phone with Robert Jeffress, a Dallas megachurch pastor and indefatigable Trump ally. He sounded almost gleeful.

“I thought it was completely appropriate for the president to stand in front of that church,” Jeffress told me. “And by holding up the Bible, he was showing us that it teaches that, yes, God hates racism, it’s despicable—but God also hates lawlessness …”

“I will never forget seeing [Trump] slowly & in-total-command walk … across Lafayette Square to St. John’s Church defying those who aim to derail our national healing by spreading fear, hate & anarchy,” wrote Johnnie Moore, the president of the Congress of Christian Leaders.

In an email to me, Ralph Reed, the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, heaped praise on Trump for his visit: “His presence sent the twin message that our streets and cities do not belong to rioters and domestic terrorists, and that the ultimate answer to what ails our country can be found in the repentance, redemption, and forgiveness of the Christian faith.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/christian-right-leaders-loved-trumps-bible-photo-op.html

TomatoPie wrote:

momadance wrote:What a small man.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Esper has reversed decision to return active-duty troops deployed near DC to home bases, Army secretary tells AP.

Esper usual

Uncle Milty wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

momadance wrote:What a small man.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Esper has reversed decision to return active-duty troops deployed near DC to home bases, Army secretary tells AP.

Esper usual

JFLNYC wrote:The Rock:

Dwayne Johnson (@TheRock) Tweeted:
Where are you?
#normalizeequality
#blacklivesmatter https://t.co/Xid3BC4B2n
https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496?s=20

Monkeyboy wrote:I would be very happy with a split. Dems win if half of them stay home or switch their vote. On top of that, and more importantly, they may lose the next generation of evangelicals. It's always really bothered me, probably more than anything else, that evangelicals follow the party that is anti-environment, something evangelicals used to support (God's garden and all that). And once people are born, the party that doesn't care about them, basically ignoring Jesus' primary teachings about the poor.

Maybe in this is a moment we may have the ears of evangelicals. I hope we expand this message to include the environment and the poor. It may be a long-term game changer.

Uncle Milty wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I would be very happy with a split. Dems win if half of them stay home or switch their vote. On top of that, and more importantly, they may lose the next generation of evangelicals. It's always really bothered me, probably more than anything else, that evangelicals follow the party that is anti-environment, something evangelicals used to support (God's garden and all that). And once people are born, the party that doesn't care about them, basically ignoring Jesus' primary teachings about the poor.

Maybe in this is a moment we may have the ears of evangelicals. I hope we expand this message to include the environment and the poor. It may be a long-term game changer.

Wish I had a better understanding of what people mean by evangelicals. Not singling out anyone here but it seems like the label is often applied to anyone who's religious.

Augustus wrote:Interesting info about evangelical Christians, evangelical beliefs, and self-identifying evangelicals:

https://lifewayresearch.com/2017/12/06/many-evangelicals-dont-hold-evangelical-beliefs/

Lines are being drawn in the sand, the people like Mattis and others are exposing what many of us know, they are establishment and part of the group that sold us out over the last 40 years.

momadance wrote:

Augustus wrote:Interesting info about evangelical Christians, evangelical beliefs, and self-identifying evangelicals:

https://lifewayresearch.com/2017/12/06/many-evangelicals-dont-hold-evangelical-beliefs/

Some tidbits on The Bible Belt as well.

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-bible-belt-1434529

momadance wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I would be very happy with a split. Dems win if half of them stay home or switch their vote. On top of that, and more importantly, they may lose the next generation of evangelicals. It's always really bothered me, probably more than anything else, that evangelicals follow the party that is anti-environment, something evangelicals used to support (God's garden and all that). And once people are born, the party that doesn't care about them, basically ignoring Jesus' primary teachings about the poor.

Maybe in this is a moment we may have the ears of evangelicals. I hope we expand this message to include the environment and the poor. It may be a long-term game changer.

Wish I had a better understanding of what people mean by evangelicals. Not singling out anyone here but it seems like the label is often applied to anyone who's religious.

I know many religious people who I would never call evangelicals. Evangelicals are more like the radical Christians in the South and Bible Belt area. They love Jesus but don't give a shit about the message of Jesus, using religion as a front to make them think they are better than other people (ie: minorities). Hate abortion and social programs for children born into poverty. Love a show of force, guns, and racism. Probably can't tell you anything factual about Jesus in Jerusalem.

Bucky wrote:speaking in tongues is the dead giveaway

Trump vows to campaign against Murkowski after senator's criticism

momadance wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I would be very happy with a split. Dems win if half of them stay home or switch their vote. On top of that, and more importantly, they may lose the next generation of evangelicals. It's always really bothered me, probably more than anything else, that evangelicals follow the party that is anti-environment, something evangelicals used to support (God's garden and all that). And once people are born, the party that doesn't care about them, basically ignoring Jesus' primary teachings about the poor.

Maybe in this is a moment we may have the ears of evangelicals. I hope we expand this message to include the environment and the poor. It may be a long-term game changer.

Wish I had a better understanding of what people mean by evangelicals. Not singling out anyone here but it seems like the label is often applied to anyone who's religious.

I know many religious people who I would never call evangelicals. Evangelicals are more like the radical Christians in the South and Bible Belt area. They love Jesus but don't give a shit about the message of Jesus, using religion as a front to make them think they are better than other people (ie: minorities). Hate abortion and social programs for children born into poverty. Love a show of force, guns, and racism. Probably can't tell you anything factual about Jesus in Jerusalem.

Warszawa wrote:It seems like Barr (who is also a religious nut) is behind a lot of what’s going on now in the White House.

thephan wrote:

Trump vows to campaign against Murkowski after senator's criticism

Big baby