Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Thu Jun 04, 2020 08:25:03

When Trump mad his march to St. John's and his daughter produced a Bible from somewhere in her hand bag he was ask, "Is that your Bible?"
His answer was, "Its a Bible"

Now contrast this with George Floyd

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The rest of the country knows George Floyd from several minutes of cell phone footage captured during his final hours. But in Houston’s Third Ward, they know Floyd for how he lived for decades—a mentor to a generation of young men and a “person of peace” ushering ministries into the area.

Before moving to Minneapolis for a job opportunity through a Christian work program, the 46-year-old spent almost his entire life in the historically black Third Ward, where he was called “Big Floyd” and regarded as an “OG,” a de-facto community leader and elder statesmen, his ministry partners say.


https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/ ... hurch.html
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby traderdave » Thu Jun 04, 2020 09:22:25

JFLNYC wrote:In an email to me, Ralph Reed, the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, heaped praise on Trump for his visit: “His presence sent the twin message that our streets and cities do not belong to rioters and domestic terrorists, and that the ultimate answer to what ails our country can be found in the repentance, redemption, and forgiveness of the Christian faith.”


The twin message with twin ironies considering that (i) it riot police that used tear gas and rubber bullets to clear the street for Trump's photo-op and (ii) Trump has never repented in his life and, in fact, by his own admission, has never asked God for forgiveness.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Thu Jun 04, 2020 09:42:53

Only The Federalist knows the truth about the jackbooted protesters and that there was not Tear Gas (they source WTOP's Neal Augustine who said it was smoke grenades and he was backed up by the Park Service) https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02/me ... t-rioters/ Now what about Flash Bangs and rubber bullets or a line of horses? All very civil and friendly.

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The Secret Service, asked directly if it used tear gas at Lafayette Park, declined to say, one way or the other. I'm continuing to try to rule in or rule out. Will keep in touch.


It does not seem like he was there. He is checking with sources and reporters who were there.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:10:03

momadance wrote:What a small man.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Esper has reversed decision to return active-duty troops deployed near DC to home bases, Army secretary tells AP.


Esper usual
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby momadance » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:21:00

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:28:46

So many times, just like John Oliver, I thought "WE GOT HIM" and Trump the cockroach still has escaped all accountability.

Take this with a HUGE grain of salt, but here's a glimmer of hope:

Uncle Blazer @blakesmustache
REVELATION THREAD: How a small group of brave patriots saved democracy

This is the story of the FBI counterintelligence investigation, how it was protected and completed, and how it doomed Donald J. Trump.
8:29 AM · Jun 4, 2020·Twitter

The story begins in May 2017 when Trump fired Comey and Andy McCabe became Acting FBI Director. McCabe knew Comey was fired to shut down the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation, so he took steps to protect that investigation. McCabe’s stroke of genius was to bifurcate the investigation of Trump into two pieces: a criminal investigation by Robert Mueller, and a counterintelligence investigation by the FBI.

The *trick* though was that McCabe apparently didn’t tell anyone there were two investigations. Everyone thought Mueller was conducting *both* a criminal and counterintelligence investigation, but he wasn’t. Mueller’s investigation was criminal only, and was a decoy for the FBI counterintelligence investigation.

Trump spent two years attacking the Mueller investigation, not realizing that he was attacking the *wrong* investigation. Mueller waited to drop the bomb on Trump until the FBI was almost done. Then he submitted his Report and revealed the truth: he was a decoy all along.

When Trump and Barr got the Mueller Report in March 2019, they realized they’d been fooled. They were focused on shutting down Mueller but their real problem was the FBI counterintelligence investigation. By the time they figured it out, the FBI investigation was nearly complete. Barr tried to cover things up and launched a desperate attempt to frame the FBI counterintelligence investigation as lacking a predicate and being invalid. He flew around the world trying to prove it. But he failed to come up with anything other than lies.

When Mueller testified to Congress in July 2019, he made it clear that the FBI counterintelligence investigation was *ONGOING.* Not only was Mueller’s investigation not the only investigation: The Mueller Report wasn’t the only report. The FBI was secretly working with the Senate Intelligence Committee to help them publish a report on the FBI counterintelligence investigation.

On April 21, 2020, Senate Intelligence released Volume 4 of its Russia report and dropped two huge bombs by: (1) concluding Russia was working to help Trump and (2) announcing that the fifth and final volume of their report would detail the FBI counterintelligence investigation.
Thread: Senate Intelligence Committee concludes in Volume 4 of its report Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump and confirms the counterintelligence investigation is *ongoing* and will be the subject of Volume 5 of the Committee’s Report.
https://intelligence.senate.gov/sites/d ... olume4.pdf


The big twist in this story is the revelation of its true hero: Richard Burr. Burr was Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and he protected the FBI investigation and pushed it over the finish line, at great personal cost. Trump and Barr attacked Burr to try to shut him down. They figured out Burr had engaged in suspicious stock trades and tried to use it against him. They raided him and seized his phone to force him to step down as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

On May 14, 2020, Burr stepped down as Chairman of Senate Intelligence. But Trump and Barr were too late. Burr had already stuck the dagger in their backs before he stepped down: The Report was already finished! On May 15, 2020, the Senate Intelligence Committee announced that its report on the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation was complete and submitted it to ODNI for declassification.

Trump hurried to install a new DNI to try and keep the report from getting out. But Senate Intel had a plan to protect against that as well. You see, they prepared their own redacted version of the report, and Mark Warner stands ready to read it on the Senate floor.

If you look closely at those two days, May 14 and May 15, you will see that’s when Trump became truly desperate. Over those two days, Trump announced “OBAMAGATE!!!” in a last, desperate attempt to attack and discredit the FBI counterintelligence investigation. It didn’t work.

When Trump realized “OBAMAGATE” was a dead end he made one last effort to gnaw off his own leg to escape the trap: He tried to stage a military coup to take over the entire county. Yep, that happened. But that plan too was foiled last night when the military rebuked Trump.

It’s all over now folks. The report is coming out and Trump will be exposed as a Russian asset. Trump is all out of options. His attempt at a forcible coup was thwarted. Trump is trapped like a rat.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Werthless » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:39:16

I love politics fan fic.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Woody » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:57:42

Yeah. Facts and laws no longer matter
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby momadance » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:03:43

Oh christ.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:48:22

I have zero faith in anything posted from @blakesmustache

Mark Warner has been excellent for Virginia, and he is both a man of integrity and was a good businessman, so I do not really see him just politiking this with a pocketed expose.

I'd be thrilled to be wrong.
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby azrider » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:52:42

thanks for the post TP. i was really concerned that he could turn the protests/riots right around with his rhetoric of division and hate. the dude is a wounded animal, he didn't drop and hide behind a rock waiting to die right away, but it's close. a wounded animal can still be a dangerous one tho. the election is just months away and it's best not to prod him with a stick and just let him die. really want to direct efforts of change through the avenues available to us through our constitution. protest and demonstration is needed to raise a voice, but ultimately we are not a third world banana republic, so we have to stop acting like one regarding both the police actions and rioting and looting. time to move forward, concentrate on the elections and hold those who we chose to lead us both locally and nationally responsible for their actions.

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby momadance » Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:54:34

Werthless wrote:I love politics fan fic.


https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu ... 0629080065

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby thephan » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:22:32

momadance wrote:
Werthless wrote:I love politics fan fic.


https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/statu ... 0629080065


Obamagate created the antifa with Soros to invent Coronavirus so Bill Gates could inject mind control chips via the vaccine while he and the Chinese made millions from the stock market chaos as a cover for Joe Scarborough to get away with murder while constraining Russia and...


Does this guy live near me? Sounds familiar...
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:25:25

The Rock:

Dwayne Johnson (@TheRock) Tweeted:
Where are you?
#normalizeequality
#blacklivesmatter https://t.co/Xid3BC4B2n
https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496?s=20
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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby Napalm » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:33:02

JFLNYC wrote:The Rock:

Dwayne Johnson (@TheRock) Tweeted:
Where are you?
#normalizeequality
#blacklivesmatter https://t.co/Xid3BC4B2n
https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1268396403711082496?s=20

I couldn't get through that. It sounds like a campaign speech or something

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby momadance » Thu Jun 04, 2020 14:33:21

@ChuckGrassley
Im placing holds on 2 Trump Admin noms until I get reasons 4firing 2 agency watchdogs as required by law Not 1st time ive raised alarm when admins flout IG protection law Obama did same& got same earfull from me All I want is a reason 4 firing these ppl CHECKS&BALANCES

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 04, 2020 15:31:03

RCP poll average 152 days pre-election:

Now: Biden +7.2
2016: Clinton +3.8
2012: Obama +2.2
2008: Obama +2.2
2004: Kerry +1.6

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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby JUburton » Thu Jun 04, 2020 15:35:27


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Re: Politics Thread: Dad, Pull Over! I have to VP!

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jun 04, 2020 15:43:13

JUburton wrote:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1268622750463062017

brain worms


What are you going to doing about the use of excessive force?

I made a speech about rockets and george floyd.

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