We’re fucked.

Bucky wrote:watching the realtime comments of val arkoosh's daily 3PM briefings is sad. So many ignorant manipulated people out there.

She's excellent and hope she does bigger things in the future

jamiethekiller wrote:The line of attack(AstroTurf) in the suburbs is that it's all nursing home related and that 1. Gov. wolf is responsible for their deaths and 2. Nursing home deaths shouldn't be setting policy

All lives matter except old people

CalvinBall wrote:

jamiethekiller wrote:The line of attack(AstroTurf) in the suburbs is that it's all nursing home related and that 1. Gov. wolf is responsible for their deaths and 2. Nursing home deaths shouldn't be setting policy

All lives matter except old people

That I don’t know and aren’t me.

The Savior wrote:I just moved a few months back but in the midst of all of this have enjoyed learning a lot about handyman type jobs. I’ve done small electrical, plumbing, and carpenter like work while in this lockdown and have really enjoyed it as a stress reliever. The hour I would normally spend commuting I now spend painting or sparkling or some odd job that’s in the “nice to do but not a must” category.

Anyway, small win in this I suppose. Anyone else finding things they like that they either didn’t have the time for or never dedicated focus attention to? And whether you’ll continue?

I’ve been learning similar handyman skills, but the thing I’ve been doing a lot more of instead of commuting is cooking. The family certainly appreciates.

South Korea with an example of what happens when people try to go back to normal:

The club-goer residing in Yongin, Gyeonggi Province is estimated to have come into contact with at least 1,500 people during his roughly four-hour long club hopping on May 2, sparking renewed health concerns over a potential mass infection amid the country’s transition to relaxed “everyday life quarantine” that began this week.

At least 13 people who came into contact with the 29-year-old club-goer have been confirmed with COVID-19 as of Friday. He is believed to be the initial source of infection, the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

The whole country was averaging less than 13 cases per day for a few weeks. Now this one guy has created at least that many in a single night out. At least they found him right away and began tracing. It goes without saying that the US would just keep partying until the case numbers became overwhelming again.

South Korea started transitioning to "normal" from a better position, too.

I'm more concerned now as things begin reopening here today than I've been at any point.

CalvinBall wrote:

momadance wrote:

ReadingPhilly wrote:

momadance wrote:

momadance wrote:Reading's Brigantine VRBO guy is being investigated by the city LOL.

So he's already received a court summons for one property this week. They didn't know about the other two. Oops.

get um

Heh ... They're trying to hide the vehicles by parking them in the allies behind the houses.

Can I get the Cliff's notes here

rented a place in brigantine for a buddy's bachelor party for the first weekend of the ncaat, people traveling in from all over the country (seattle, fla, nyc), world went to hell, guy would not refund our stay despite everything going on, tried to work it out with him multiple times, he kept insisting everyone travel there to "enjoy the property" since everything else was shut down, eventually an hour long three-way call with him and vrbo resulted in us getting the same dates next year instead of the wanted refund. moma saw on the local next door page that someone was complaining that this guy has continued to rent his properties when he apparently hasn't been allowed to do so and will now face repercussions.

Reopening to low income folks = back to work, back to public transportation, back to no unemployment, back to not going to hospital so we don’t get bankrupted

Reopening to middle and upper class = keep working from home, we want you happy and safe and we realize you are trying to teach your kids via reliable internet with tablets.

It’s all a show. I’m presumably an upper middle class individual and I’m not going anywhere anytime soon. Not risking my life or my kids. Nope.

The Dude wrote:If necessary, probably another extension, like the one today. Amazing you have a problem with it

I don't have a problem with it at all, but it can't be extended indefinitely. Once it runs out landlords and banks are going to evict and foreclose on a lot of people. The "We are all in this together" nonsense will meet reality

It's not being extended indefinitely. There is a middle ground between "evict today" and "suspend indefinitely"

Lost nearly 21 million jobs. Unemployment is at 14.7 percent.

So the rest of my daughter's senior year was officially cancelled last night. No prom, no in-person graduation. Classes end in two weeks. The very light academic silver lining - no final exams either. I strongly suspect, however, that every senior in school would gladly take final exams in exchange for having the other two events.

EDIT - Naturally, CBalls post above puts my post in perspective.

CalvinBall wrote:Lost nearly 21 million jobs. Unemployment is at 14.7 percent.

Stock futures up.

Unrelenting hellscape priced in.

CalvinBall wrote:Lost nearly 21 million jobs. Unemployment is at 14.7 percent.

U6 at 22.8%

traderdave wrote:So the rest of my daughter's senior year was officially cancelled last night. No prom, no in-person graduation. Classes end in two weeks. The very light academic silver lining - no final exams either. I strongly suspect, however, that every senior in school would gladly take final exams in exchange for having the other two events.

EDIT - Naturally, CBalls post above puts my post in perspective.

That stuff is hard too! Don't need to compare.

Yeah there is no baseline or minimum level of hardship we should compare anyone’s situation too

Yeah it's fair to say it all fucking sucks.

Tough stuff traderdave. Tell her your weird internet pals say "Congrats!" That should make it all better.

The Savior wrote:Reopening to low income folks = back to work, back to public transportation, back to no unemployment, back to not going to hospital so we don’t get bankrupted

Reopening to middle and upper class = keep working from home, we want you happy and safe and we realize you are trying to teach your kids via reliable internet with tablets.

It’s all a show. I’m presumably an upper middle class individual and I’m not going anywhere anytime soon. Not risking my life or my kids. Nope.

Yeah I think this is the thing a lot of these folks ranting about "the economy" are missing. Consumer behavior - especially in the bull market we've experienced over the past 11 years - isn't just going to "reopen" when states/cities do.

Especially travel, tourism, and sports & entertainment - that's going to take a while to recover, in the sense of consumers feeling fully comfortable.

The shutdown period has also accelerated a lot of trends that were already on a slow march forward anyway - the "stay at home" economy with streaming and food delivery services and Peloton, ecommerce (Amazon) at the expense of brick & mortar, grocery delivery, telemedicine, etc.