Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Bucky » Mon May 04, 2020 18:29:16

the ihme projections just about doubled from their last update 5 days ago

ya done messed up a-a-ron

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon May 04, 2020 18:33:41

thephan wrote:New internal projections from the Trump administration suggest U.S. deaths will grow on a daily basis to 3,000 by the beginning of June, weeks after states have begun reopening their economies.

The startling figures from models produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) come as more and more states take steps to remove social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of the COVID-19 disease.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -difficult

This was essentially fake news, but the IHME update seems less fake and pretty depressing.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby JUburton » Mon May 04, 2020 18:50:08

jerseyhoya wrote:
thephan wrote:New internal projections from the Trump administration suggest U.S. deaths will grow on a daily basis to 3,000 by the beginning of June, weeks after states have begun reopening their economies.

The startling figures from models produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) come as more and more states take steps to remove social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of the COVID-19 disease.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -difficult

This was essentially fake news, but the IHME update seems less fake and pretty depressing.
what are you basing this on?

And hasn't the IHME model actually been pretty bad? Vox did some piece that said it's day before death estimates were outside of its 90% confidence interval 70% of the time.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby 06hawkalum » Mon May 04, 2020 18:51:22

jerseyhoya wrote:
thephan wrote:New internal projections from the Trump administration suggest U.S. deaths will grow on a daily basis to 3,000 by the beginning of June, weeks after states have begun reopening their economies.

The startling figures from models produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) come as more and more states take steps to remove social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of the COVID-19 disease.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -difficult

This was essentially fake news, but the IHME update seems less fake and pretty depressing.


https://twitter.com/dwallacewells/statu ... 81862?s=20
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby JUburton » Mon May 04, 2020 18:56:04

Well that's worse!

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Werthless » Mon May 04, 2020 19:08:28

JUburton wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
thephan wrote:New internal projections from the Trump administration suggest U.S. deaths will grow on a daily basis to 3,000 by the beginning of June, weeks after states have begun reopening their economies.

The startling figures from models produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) come as more and more states take steps to remove social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of the COVID-19 disease.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -difficult

This was essentially fake news, but the IHME update seems less fake and pretty depressing.
what are you basing this on?

And hasn't the IHME model actually been pretty bad? Vox did some piece that said it's day before death estimates were outside of its 90% confidence interval 70% of the time.

Do you have a link? Eerors would be highly correlated, such that the statement of accuracy is not as disqualifying as you suggest.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby JUburton » Mon May 04, 2020 19:21:16

Werthless wrote:
JUburton wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
thephan wrote:New internal projections from the Trump administration suggest U.S. deaths will grow on a daily basis to 3,000 by the beginning of June, weeks after states have begun reopening their economies.

The startling figures from models produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) come as more and more states take steps to remove social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of the COVID-19 disease.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -difficult

This was essentially fake news, but the IHME update seems less fake and pretty depressing.
what are you basing this on?

And hasn't the IHME model actually been pretty bad? Vox did some piece that said it's day before death estimates were outside of its 90% confidence interval 70% of the time.

Do you have a link? Eerors would be highly correlated, such that the statement of accuracy is not as disqualifying as you suggest.
of course there's time to correct but it doesn't seem like it's been very accurate to date.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020 ... e-pandemic

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Eem » Mon May 04, 2020 19:24:42

I never want to hear the phrase “COVID model” ever again
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon May 04, 2020 19:40:16

JUburton wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
thephan wrote:New internal projections from the Trump administration suggest U.S. deaths will grow on a daily basis to 3,000 by the beginning of June, weeks after states have begun reopening their economies.

The startling figures from models produced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) come as more and more states take steps to remove social distancing measures meant to slow the spread of the COVID-19 disease.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -difficult

This was essentially fake news, but the IHME update seems less fake and pretty depressing.
what are you basing this on?

A draft government report projects covid-19 cases will surge to about 200,000 per day by June 1, a staggering jump that would be accompanied by more than 3,000 deaths each day.

The document predicts a sharp increase in both cases and deaths beginning about May 14, according to a copy shared with The Washington Post. The forecast stops at June 1, but shows both daily cases and deaths on an upward trajectory at that point.

The White House and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention disavowed the report, although the slides carry the CDC’s logo. The creator of the model said the numbers are unfinished projections shown to the CDC as a work in progress.

The work contained a wide range of possibilities and modeling was not complete, according to Justin Lessler, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, who created the model. He said he didn’t know how the update was turned into a slidedeck by government officials and shared with news organizations. The data was first reported by the New York Times.

“I had no role in the process by which that was presented and shown,” said Lessler, who added that the data was presented as an “FYI” of work still in progress to officials within FEMA. “It was not in any way intended to be a forecast.”

Lessler said that while the exact numbers and charts in the CDC document may differ from the final results, they do show accurately how covid-19 cases could spiral out of control. He said 100,000 cases per day by the end of the month is within the realm of possibility. Much depends on political decisions being made today.

It was based on one unfinished projection within a range and wasn't meant to be a forecast, but was presented in the press as if they were some official CDC projection within the administration. My guess is they were leaked by someone to try to scare things straight and get the brakes tapped on reopening.

And hasn't the IHME model actually been pretty bad? Vox did some piece that said it's day before death estimates were outside of its 90% confidence interval 70% of the time.

Yeah, it's been bad, and not saying they're gonna be right now, but the changes they talk about incorporating make sense (without knowing how any of the math actually works).

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby JUburton » Mon May 04, 2020 19:47:27

Yeah same here. Makes sense conceptually but I stopped statistics in tenth grade so..

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Bucky » Mon May 04, 2020 20:14:12

how did italy slow the carnage so <relatively> quickly? is it just the population difference??

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Wheels Tupay » Mon May 04, 2020 20:26:30

Bucky wrote:how did italy slow the carnage so <relatively> quickly? is it just the population difference??


they got hit earlier than we did.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Bucky » Mon May 04, 2020 20:40:01

i don't think there's gonna be baseball this year

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby swishnicholson » Mon May 04, 2020 20:48:55

Bucky wrote:i don't think there's gonna be baseball this year


Tomorrow's Opening Day! Or today, whatever.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Mon May 04, 2020 21:19:40

Bucky wrote:i don't think there's gonna be baseball this year

BANNED!
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Mon May 04, 2020 21:26:53

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Someone was asking about countries who got their shit together. Graph starts at case 100.

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Mon May 04, 2020 21:28:42

Apologies if this was posted before. On Friday a security guard was shot and killed apparently over enforcing mask requirements at a Family Dollar in Flint. He was a husband and father 8 children.
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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby thephan » Mon May 04, 2020 21:37:06

Disgusting
yawn

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Slowhand » Mon May 04, 2020 21:39:31

Bucky wrote:i don't think there's gonna be baseball this year


So what will the BSG get together event be then?
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Covid-19 - Opening gates. Find higher ground.

Unread postby Bucky » Mon May 04, 2020 21:40:22

ZOOM SALUTE MY CARGO SHORTS

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