PSUsarge wrote:I can say with complete certainty that college me (an idiot, as many of us were at that age) would be heading back up there Friday, May 8 to play golf (courses now open) or video games during the day and drink with my roommates / friends at our apartment or someone's house at night. Would also guess the, uh, drought is probably becoming very real as well.

You wouldn't already be up there doing that?

heyeaglefn wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:I can say with complete certainty that college me (an idiot, as many of us were at that age) would be heading back up there Friday, May 8 to play golf (courses now open) or video games during the day and drink with my roommates / friends at our apartment or someone's house at night. Would also guess the, uh, drought is probably becoming very real as well.

You wouldn't already be up there doing that?

Maybe, but anecdotally it seems like most college-aged kids are home right now. Could be wrong.

Obviously tons of factors can go into this, including paperwork delays and increased testing, but Georgia posted over 1000 new cases of coronavirus today, their highest total in about two weeks.

Shelter in place orders end for most people today, and of course many other restrictions were lifted over the past week.

Shelter in place orders remain in effect for those 65 and over, along with those with certain health conditions, including obesity.

wonder how many healthy 65 year olds will break out the Grecian formula and try to pass? Can imagine them being surrounded by packs like in Invasion of the Body Snatchers, or suddenly slipping up when they try to get their bus fare discount.

2 members of my union have now passed away due to COVID19. Same workplace. They're both from Delaware County.

Feel bad bumping this from the middle of the page. If it gets second paged does that mean we have nothing more to worry about?

But in the numbers game, due largely to a big drop in NY reported deaths, below 300, yesterday New Jersey reported the highest number of deaths in the nation. OTOH,after going 1-2 in new cases for ages, NY stayed at #1 , but NJ dropped to #3, behind Illinois.

Andy Slavitt nightly thread was pretty telling imo. We could and should start ramping up testing infrastructure, but it requires gov't oversight and there is no profit motive for private companies to do it. Unfortunately this is something where Trump really does have all the leverage.

Gov. Reeves reverses on reopening businesses after numbers increase in MS. Wonder where they'd be if he resisted less in the beginning.

Rockinghorse wrote:Andy Slavitt nightly thread was pretty telling imo. We could and should start ramping up testing infrastructure, but it requires gov't oversight and there is no profit motive for private companies to do it. Unfortunately this is something where Trump really does have all the leverage.

This is impossible. I've been told the private sector will rise to any challenge.

Uncle Milty wrote:Gov. Reeves reverses on reopening businesses after numbers increase in MS. Wonder where they'd be if he resisted less in the beginning.

How’s GA doing?

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           18-Apr   25-Apr    New   % Change   Cases/1k   18-Apr   25-Apr   New   % Change
Statewide   81420   105523   24103     30%      11.9       4070     5863   1793     44%
Bergen      12163    14738    2575     21%      15.8        741      954    213     29%
Hudson       9956    13367    3411     34%      20.0        434      655    221     51%
Essex        9901    12520    2619     26%      15.8        732     1019    287     39%
Union        8959    11523    2564     29%      20.8        356      563    207     58%
Passaic      7936    10738    2802     35%      21.3        243      416    173     71%
Middlesex    7624    10075    2451     32%      12.2        313      431    118     38%
Ocean        4548     5811    1263     28%       9.8        212      317    105     50%
Monmouth     4528     5521     993     22%       8.9        221      287     66     30%
Morris       3984     4821     837     21%       9.8        255      347     92     36%
Mercer       2215     3245    1030     47%       8.8        110      183     73     66%
Somerset     2283     3030     747     33%       9.2        146      219     73     50%
Camden       1918     2870     952     50%       5.7         73      118     45     62%
Burlington   1456     2153     697     48%       4.8         57       88     31     54%
Gloucester    683      949     266     39%       3.3         23       30      7     30%
Sussex        626      812     186     30%       5.7         55       91     36     65%
Warren        543      750     207     38%       7.1         39       63     24     62%
Atlantic      382      596     214     56%       2.2         19       29     10     53%
Hunterdon     391      505     114     29%       4.0         17       23      6     35%
Cumberland    272      504     232     85%       3.3          4        6      2     50%
Cape May      199      261      62     31%       2.8         14       18      4     29%
Salem         105      177      72     69%       2.8          4        6      2     50%
                           
Deaths       4070     5863    1793     44%       0.7            
Negatives   81116   108163   27047     33%      12.2   

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            25-Apr    2-May    New   % Change   Cases/1k   25-Apr   2-May   New   % Change
Statewide   105523   123717   18194     17%       13.9      5863     7742  1879      32%
Bergen       14738    15974    1236      8%       17.2       954     1202   248      26%
Hudson       13367    15401    2034     15%       23.0       655      834   179      27%
Essex        12520    14248    1728     14%       18.0      1019     1265   246      24%
Passaic      10738    13082    2344     22%       26.0       416      624   208      50%
Union        11523    12996    1473     13%       23.5       563      731   168      30%
Middlesex    10075    12213    2138     21%       14.8       431      618   187      43%
Ocean         5811     6692     881     15%       11.3       317      426   109      34%
Monmouth      5521     6198     677     12%        9.9       287      372    85      30%
Morris        4821     5406     585     12%       10.9       347      440    93      27%
Mercer        3245     4271    1026     32%       11.6       183      252    69      38%
Camden        2870     3773     903     31%        7.4       118      161    43      36%
Somerset      3030     3605     575     19%       10.9       219      289    70      32%
Burlington    2153     2879     726     34%        6.4        88      146    58      66%
Gloucester     949     1334     385     41%        4.6        30       50    20      67%
Atlantic       596     1050     454     76%        3.9        29       48    19      66%
Sussex         812      949     137     17%        6.7        91      114    23      25%
Warren         750      941     191     25%        8.9        63       84    21      33%
Cumberland     504      809     305     61%        5.3         6       16    10     167%
Hunterdon      505      622     117     23%        5.0        23       35    12      52%
Cape May       261      337      76     29%        3.6        18       23     5      28%
Salem          177      261      84     47%        4.1         6       12     6     100%
                           
Deaths        5863     7742    1879     32%        0.9            
Negatives   108163   138595   30432     28%       15.6      

Deaths higher this week than last, but new cases down by like 33%. Still a lot of them. It's not great.

Warszawa wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Gov. Reeves reverses on reopening businesses after numbers increase in MS. Wonder where they'd be if he resisted less in the beginning.

How’s GA doing?

Not sure how the question applies to my post. If you mean since "reopening" I've not really looked into it since it's probably a bit too early. I believe yesterday was their 3rd highest total of new positives and the highest in over 2 weeks. Too early to draw any conclusion but that's not a great early sign. Might also help if they started to take testing seriously.

Uncle Milty wrote:

Warszawa wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Gov. Reeves reverses on reopening businesses after numbers increase in MS. Wonder where they'd be if he resisted less in the beginning.

How’s GA doing?

Not sure how the question applies to my post. If you mean since "reopening" I've not really looked into it since it's probably a bit too early. I believe yesterday was their 3rd highest total of new positives and the highest in over 2 weeks. Too early to draw any conclusion but that's not a great early sign. Might also help if they started to take testing seriously.

Yeah, as you say, it's too early to tell, although they had never really had a actual decline before opening things up so I'm not even sure you'll see a rebound as much as a continuation. Today was a lower case number than yesterday, but only one other day of the last nine has been higher. But their health department has always been way behind or erratic in reporting cases and deaths. Which made it laughable that the governor confidently spoke about "contact tracing" when, as you say, they've been slow to even roll out testing for those who are ill or at risk.

So, we are now moving towards the Sweden model. Deaths are going to escalate

You never know how much to accept any country's numbers (even our own), but Russia's are interesting. By the figures submitted, they're apparently testing quite a few more asymptomatic people, having conducted close to 4 million tests and registered 124,000 case of COVID-19, or about a 3% positive rate (compared to say, over 16% in the US). Of these, only 1222 have died, or just under 1%. Seemingly somewhat good news for them, however they are estimating that about 2% of Moscow's population (or around 250,000) have the disease, not to mention elsewhere. Given that it seems to have been a later arrival in Russia than elsewhere in Europe, you would expect the death rate to rise in the coming weeks, and the increase in cases hasn't slowed.


they've taken strong isolation measures, at least until May 12. It will be interesting to see how their numbers shape up, given the widespread testing of the population.

Can someone please ELI5 the whole "China created this in a lab" thing, as now our Secretary of State is suggesting that "strong evidence" points to? Is this presumed to be a "Stranger Things" situation where experimentation goes wrong, or is there some incentive China would have to do ths..?

Beijing and Shanghai never got sick so it was a controlled outbreak to dominate the global supply chain and destroy oil prices

PSUsarge wrote:Can someone please ELI5 the whole "China created this in a lab" thing, as now our Secretary of State is suggesting that "strong evidence" points to? Is this presumed to be a "Stranger Things" situation where experimentation goes wrong, or is there some incentive China would have to do ths..?

Double cover for Trump and the GOP. China's fault not theirs. The economy's bad since they have no choice but to punish China thru trade sanctions.

Excellent news!

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... e-11981721

06hawkalum wrote:Excellent news!

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... e-11981721

Good news but a deceiving headline, imo.

A total of 277 patients in the country were believed to have fallen ill for a second time, as had patients in China and Japan.

This prompted concerns that the virus could be mutating so quickly that people were not necessarily immune to catching it again.

However, genetic analyses of the virus have not found any substantial changes which would effectively disguise it from the immune system.

The only conclusion is about mutation rate of the virus. Nothing about actual immune response.

Like I said before, I am not sure we have ever seen a coronavirus where we didn't gain immunity for some period of time, and all indications are that is the case with this one as well.

Every article I have seen that says someone got it twice had a follow up to show they actually didn't, whether it was failed testing or something else.