You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Mar 17, 2020 00:32:09

It would be literally the most boring pairing I could imagine from the top dems.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Tue Mar 17, 2020 06:53:07

If she was so goddamn helpful she'd have gotten more votes
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Mar 17, 2020 07:20:47

She won him Minnesota

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby stevemc » Tue Mar 17, 2020 08:27:37

I see Catherine Cortez Masto's name floated. She is the first Latina Senator ever and would be a nice balance to the ticket in my opinion. She's only been in office since the '16 election after taking over Harry Reid's Nevada seat.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:14:42

well she was also attorney general which is significant.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Uncle Milty » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:18:26

She carries a little baggage tho
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:34:10

@FoxNews has learned that @realDonaldTrump will ask Congress for more than $800 billion in economic stimulus: $500 bil in payroll tax cut, $250 bil in Small Business Association loans, $58 billion for the airlines, and a smattering of other items.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:51:04

Trump has dragged two Democratic Governors this morning on Twitter (Coumo and Whitmer). But yesterday, in the sentences he was able to coherently complete, he *seemed* to be taking this all seriously after a month of absolutely doing nothing. Shucks. Thought we had turned a corner too!!

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:52:47

momadance wrote:@FoxNews has learned that @realDonaldTrump will ask Congress for more than $800 billion in economic stimulus: $500 bil in payroll tax cut, $250 bil in Small Business Association loans, $58 billion for the airlines, and a smattering of other items.

GTFO


Not even close to enough

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:53:47

Every person out of a job will need a UBI that's higher than unemployment. All debts will need to be frozen.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Tue Mar 17, 2020 09:58:44

Cash and debt freeze (forgiveness probably) is the only way to start. Freeze/pay for rents, utilities for businesses most affected. Pay the employees cash.

Fucking payroll tax cut are you kidding me.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:16:34

I'd be shocked if the payroll cut goes anywhere. Republicans don't even want it.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Werthless » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:41:36

jamiethekiller wrote:Every person out of a job will need a UBI that's higher than unemployment. All debts will need to be frozen.

That is a good way to actively initiate a banking crisis.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:58:45

The other end is that millions default on all bills and then what? Further divide the rich from the poor?

The banks are the one entity that can probably withstand this

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Gimpy » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:01:45

jamiethekiller wrote:The other end is that millions default on all bills and then what? Further divide the rich from the poor?

The banks are the one entity that can probably withstand this


Banks are already getting screwed with the rate cuts. I think a debt freeze makes sense as long as the government is then pumping money into the banks.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:06:34

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Augustus » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:08:12

Members of both parties discussing a stimulus package got me thinking about 2009, when no House Republicans voted for Obama's stimulus bill and only three Senate Republicans (Collins, Snowe, and Specter) did. Pelosi needs to drive a very hard bargain and win real concessions.
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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:14:36

Gimpy wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:The other end is that millions default on all bills and then what? Further divide the rich from the poor?

The banks are the one entity that can probably withstand this


Banks are already getting screwed with the rate cuts. I think a debt freeze makes sense as long as the government is then pumping money into the banks.


money has got to be infused from the bottom- to people who are shut down. they can then keep their bills paid and the normal flow of commerce going.

freezing debt and keeping the banks afloat only helps the banks in the long run- once things lift the debts are the same and the banks have more $.

and yes, the payroll tax is NOT the way to do this- that only help the people who still have incomes, who currently are in a situation to keep commercing they way they've always been commercing. they won't- heck CAN'T- go spend more because there are very limited options to spend this day. even if they do take-out every day it doesn't help the servers, busboys, and dishwashers who are not included in the take-out model.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby heyeaglefn » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:15:04

Augustus wrote:Members of both parties discussing a stimulus package got me thinking about 2009, when no House Republicans voted for Obama's stimulus bill and only three Senate Republicans (Collins, Snowe, and Specter) did. Pelosi needs to drive a very hard bargain and win real concessions.

2009 wasn't a presidential election year.

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Re: You Know, the Thing: A New Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:29:53

Augustus wrote:Members of both parties discussing a stimulus package got me thinking about 2009, when no House Republicans voted for Obama's stimulus bill and only three Senate Republicans (Collins, Snowe, and Specter) did. Pelosi needs to drive a very hard bargain and win real concessions.
I have little faith in this but man I hope I'm wrong.

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