Monkeyboy wrote:

azrider wrote:other than suspending the writ of habeas corpus thus installing marshal law, restricting movement and begin rationing of all foods and medicine, i really don't know what more i can expect from the government, and i sure don't want that. the response from the administration sucks and they should be working with scientists, doctors, hospitals and local government leaders for a co-ordinated response to find a cure, treat the ill and contain the spread, best as possible. this is one of the drawbacks living in a free society, i guess.

south Korea has managed things very well as a democracy. They tested the hell out of the population and encouraged behaviors that slow the spread of the disease. Their numbers have been in decline like China, but without the draconian measures.

Of course, SK ramped up their testing very early because they have a functioning govt

The reason the SK numbers are in decline, or so I've heard, is that as they perform more tests, they are finding more and more people who have been or were running around with the disease with mild symptoms or who were close to if not entirely asymptomatic. Each time they discover one of these, the overall death rate drops.

I dunno, this widespread panic and places shutting down seems out of all proportion to me.

Here's a short piece that might help accept social distancing.

https://microbialmenagerie.com/social-d ... -covid-19/

Philly has a long history of being proud and stupid. COWIP-94.1

My takeaway at this point is that many in the infectious disease community stress how much they don't know about this particular virus at this point. They do know it's been fatal to a large percentage of folks that it's been identified in at this point. The do know it appears to be fairly communicable. they do know something like this can potentially be very very bad.

So, at this point I'm OK with people practicing an abundance of caution. I hope it turns out to be proven overcautious*, and if it is, I won't be mad at anybody.



*that may end up be a self fulfilling un-prophecy of sorts, that the precautions keep this in check enough to prevent a catastrophe, which will make it look like they were being overcautious. Infectious disease is a funny game.

Social distancing practices... you need those.

BSG is well prepared

Heard the virus can't survive in the cool temperatures of your parents basement so all you nerds should be safe.

I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Bucky wrote:My takeaway at this point is that many in the infectious disease community stress how much they don't know about this particular virus at this point. They do know it's been fatal to a large percentage of folks that it's been identified in at this point. The do know it appears to be fairly communicable. they do know something like this can potentially be very very bad.

So, at this point I'm OK with people practicing an abundance of caution. I hope it turns out to be proven overcautious*, and if it is, I won't be mad at anybody.



*that may end up be a self fulfilling un-prophecy of sorts, that the precautions keep this in check enough to prevent a catastrophe, which will make it look like they were being overcautious. Infectious disease is a funny game.

Is 3.4% a large percentage? I guess it is all a matter of perspective.

Uncle Milty wrote:Heard the virus can't survive in the cool temperatures of your parents basement so all you nerds should be safe.

Wearing cargo shorts is more effective than wearing a mask.

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

LOL at people proving the point of Moma's FB rant

CalvinBall wrote:

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

I have a concert at the Met on Saturday (sold out, GA) and I don't know what to do. Obviously the risk of any one event being an issue is low, but these are the kinds of things that should be limited to 'flatten the curve' [i am a public health expert now].

JUburton wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

I have a concert at the Met on Saturday (sold out, GA) and I don't know what to do. Obviously the risk of any one event being an issue is low, but these are the kinds of things that should be limited to 'flatten the curve' [i am a public health expert now].

I think we need to accept the very strong probability that we all be exposed to COVID-19 and carry on living our lives.

except for those of us who die

06hawkalum wrote:

JUburton wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

I have a concert at the Met on Saturday (sold out, GA) and I don't know what to do. Obviously the risk of any one event being an issue is low, but these are the kinds of things that should be limited to 'flatten the curve' [i am a public health expert now].

I think we need to accept the very strong probability that we all be exposed to COVID-19 and carry on living our lives.

That's not the point though. This can explain it better than I can.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/scie ... ction.html

God bless the nurses and doctors graduating in about 2 months. We may need them badly.

JUburton wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

JUburton wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

I have a concert at the Met on Saturday (sold out, GA) and I don't know what to do. Obviously the risk of any one event being an issue is low, but these are the kinds of things that should be limited to 'flatten the curve' [i am a public health expert now].

I think we need to accept the very strong probability that we all be exposed to COVID-19 and carry on living our lives.

That's not the point though. This can explain it better than I can.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/scie ... ction.html

Exactly, this and Milty's article sum everything up. It's just very selfish to have this kind of attitude

Part of the problem and it is something we see with lots of issues is you have a large group of people that think this is nothing worse than the flu and another large group that think this is going to wipe out half of the Worlds population. Don't see a ton of middle ground.

Bucky wrote:LOL at people proving the point of Moma's FB rant

Haaaaaaaaa...Bucky trolling hard. I don't even have to respond.