The Dude wrote:

JUburton wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

JUburton wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

I have a concert at the Met on Saturday (sold out, GA) and I don't know what to do. Obviously the risk of any one event being an issue is low, but these are the kinds of things that should be limited to 'flatten the curve' [i am a public health expert now].

I think we need to accept the very strong probability that we all be exposed to COVID-19 and carry on living our lives.

That's not the point though. This can explain it better than I can.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/scie ... ction.html

Exactly, this and Milty's article sum everything up. It's just very selfish to have this kind of attitude

heyeaglefn wrote:Part of the problem and it is something we see with lots of issues is you have a large group of people that think this is nothing worse than the flu and another large group that think this is going to wipe out half of the Worlds population. Don't see a ton of middle ground.

CFP wrote:

The Dude wrote:

JUburton wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:

JUburton wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

The Dude wrote:I talked my wife out of her 40th birthday thing in Philly this weekend, basically just dinner and bars with friends. My friends seem to think it's reasonable, hers think I'm crazy. She's a therapist, I asked her when the last time she had a 60+ client. She said she just had one that day. I said this is why we shouldnt' be doing unnecessary things like that, bc we carry it to others that can get sick, like her mom and step-mom with stage 4 cancer.

It's really weird everyone's attitude is "It's fine, it just kills old people". To me that means we should be careful so we don't get it to old people. It's the same as getting a flu shot you selfish fucks

Completely agree with that last part. Was at a Wawa this morning and the cashier is a senior citizen. She had plastic gloves on to accept people's money, and I thought a similar thing. Like it is our responsibility to make sure I am doing my best to make sure I can't get her sick. She has earned the right not to die by some shitty ass virus.

I have a concert at the Met on Saturday (sold out, GA) and I don't know what to do. Obviously the risk of any one event being an issue is low, but these are the kinds of things that should be limited to 'flatten the curve' [i am a public health expert now].

I think we need to accept the very strong probability that we all be exposed to COVID-19 and carry on living our lives.

That's not the point though. This can explain it better than I can.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/scie ... ction.html

Exactly, this and Milty's article sum everything up. It's just very selfish to have this kind of attitude

You'd think the NYT could drop the paywall for coronavirus coverage. Guess not.

The Dude wrote:What was the rant

There's a very easy way to tell dumb people from smart people. Or at least people with the ability to develop a cognitive thought.

Dumb people: The flu kills way more people per year.

Smart people: Influenza has been around for 2,400 years. COVID-19 has been around for three months.

Your memes, prayers, and thoughts are no match for science and mathematica.

COVID-19 has been around for many years, look at a Lysol bottle (older than 3 months ago, like years..) it says it kills the virus. Not a new virus, media is making it more than what it is.

The Dude wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:Part of the problem and it is something we see with lots of issues is you have a large group of people that think this is nothing worse than the flu and another large group that think this is going to wipe out half of the Worlds population. Don't see a ton of middle ground.

i think this is largely true, and the people in the middle like me are considered crazy by both sides

TenuredVulture wrote:

The Dude wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:Part of the problem and it is something we see with lots of issues is you have a large group of people that think this is nothing worse than the flu and another large group that think this is going to wipe out half of the Worlds population. Don't see a ton of middle ground.

i think this is largely true, and the people in the middle like me are considered crazy by both sides

The problem is that this has been politicized, largely by defenders of Trump, so what people believe depends not on their evaluation of evidence but on their political loyalties. The only way to defend Trump's idiocy and incompetence in dealing with a major public health threat is simply to deny it's a problem. Republicans have of course been doing this for awhile with other issues like climate change.

A competent Republican President would act differently, I'm sure, but there's also an underlying ideology--the denial that as a public we should do things (pay taxes, not be so selfish) for the sake of public goods.

momadance wrote:

The Dude wrote:What was the rant

There's a very easy way to tell dumb people from smart people. Or at least people with the ability to develop a cognitive thought.

Dumb people: The flu kills way more people per year.

Smart people: Influenza has been around for 2,400 years. COVID-19 has been around for three months.

Your memes, prayers, and thoughts are no match for science and mathematica.

It started to spiral from there.

Bucky jumped on this reply:

COVID-19 has been around for many years, look at a Lysol bottle (older than 3 months ago, like years..) it says it kills the virus. Not a new virus, media is making it more than what it is.

The Dude wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

The Dude wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:Part of the problem and it is something we see with lots of issues is you have a large group of people that think this is nothing worse than the flu and another large group that think this is going to wipe out half of the Worlds population. Don't see a ton of middle ground.

i think this is largely true, and the people in the middle like me are considered crazy by both sides

The problem is that this has been politicized, largely by defenders of Trump, so what people believe depends not on their evaluation of evidence but on their political loyalties. The only way to defend Trump's idiocy and incompetence in dealing with a major public health threat is simply to deny it's a problem. Republicans have of course been doing this for awhile with other issues like climate change.

A competent Republican President would act differently, I'm sure, but there's also an underlying ideology--the denial that as a public we should do things (pay taxes, not be so selfish) for the sake of public goods.

no, it's selfish people that are liberals too. They're not looking at the big picture bc they won't get seriously sick

slugsrbad wrote:

momadance wrote:

The Dude wrote:What was the rant

There's a very easy way to tell dumb people from smart people. Or at least people with the ability to develop a cognitive thought.

Dumb people: The flu kills way more people per year.

Smart people: Influenza has been around for 2,400 years. COVID-19 has been around for three months.

Your memes, prayers, and thoughts are no match for science and mathematica.

It started to spiral from there.

Bucky jumped on this reply:

COVID-19 has been around for many years, look at a Lysol bottle (older than 3 months ago, like years..) it says it kills the virus. Not a new virus, media is making it more than what it is.

I may end up stealing that eventually. I'm tired of seeing people post stupid memes. I swear we will meme our way through the apocalypse.

Grotewold wrote:haha