middle aged white guys always say that

Bucky wrote:middle aged white guys always say that

Goddammit Buckys are always making those kinds of jokes.

I’m now officially a senior.

Get off my lawn!

JUburton wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:

JUburton wrote:He's gonna crumble under scrutiny and one day we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny, I just wish that he spent his half a bil helping actual democrats get elected.

This was said about Trump until, well, he was elected.

Trump won the GOP primary for a number of reasons, not the least of which was we all underestimated the power of the supposed fringe elements of the party. He also was elected due to their complete reliance on winner take all primaries.

If the democrats did primaries the same way the GOP did, Bernie would have this thing locked up by Super Tuesday.

I agree, just pointing out that waiting for the richest candidate to crumble under scrutiny went 0 for 2 last election, so I wouldn't count on it as a strategy.

PSUsarge wrote:

JUburton wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:

JUburton wrote:He's gonna crumble under scrutiny and one day we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny, I just wish that he spent his half a bil helping actual democrats get elected.

This was said about Trump until, well, he was elected.

Trump won the GOP primary for a number of reasons, not the least of which was we all underestimated the power of the supposed fringe elements of the party. He also was elected due to their complete reliance on winner take all primaries.

If the democrats did primaries the same way the GOP did, Bernie would have this thing locked up by Super Tuesday.

I agree, just pointing out that waiting for the richest candidate to crumble under scrutiny went 0 for 2 last election, so I wouldn't count on it as a strategy.

I think it's just apples to oranges here. Now expecting Trump to lose because he's morally worse than Bernie this time around would be foolish. The GOP primary base is just so different than the Dem base, that I don't think the lessons apply.

Of course, we've never seen an influx of money like this in a democratic primary so that's an unknown, but I'm hopefully it will not be successful.

Julian Assange: Trump 'offered pardon for Russia denial'

Well, liars lying about lying. Not sure who to believe. Somehow I don't even see this administration being that stupid.

If you want to have some doubts, there is this:

White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said: "The President barely knows Dana Rohrabacher other than he's an ex-congressman. He's never spoken to him on this subject or almost any subject.

That is Don's go to defense when his hand is caught in a cookie jar.

Bernie should just buy the rights to this sketch and run it as his campaign ad. He'd win easily.

It's impossible to quantify any of this, but as I recall, Trump wasn't really scrutinized in the primary, at least not until he was the clear front runner, and by then it was too late. Neither the media nor any of his opponents took him seriously. In fact, as I recall, he wasn't at all taken seriously. But he kept winning primaries--precisely because no one really thought seriously about the prospect of a Trump Presidency.

JUburton wrote:Of course, we've never seen an influx of money like this in a democratic primary so that's an unknown, but I'm hopefully it will not be successful.

Hillary obviously didn't have the personal capital that Bloomberg has but did have a tremendous amount of party/political capital and won the nomination as a result.

The burning question is if the party sees the opportunity to convert Bloomberg's personal capital into party/political capital.

Julian Assange rearing his ugly head to accuse Donald Trump of offering him a pardon in exchange for a lie

This is scum on scum, hard to know what to make of it.

TenuredVulture wrote:It's impossible to quantify any of this, but as I recall, Trump wasn't really scrutinized in the primary, at least not until he was the clear front runner, and by then it was too late. Neither the media nor any of his opponents took him seriously. In fact, as I recall, he wasn't at all taken seriously. But he kept winning primaries--precisely because no one really thought seriously about the prospect of a Trump Presidency.

This is certainly part of it, but the other part...and I think this is the massive difference, is that he has a rock solid ideological base that few people saw coming. Bloomberg does not have that. He's manufacturing support through money.

Wolfgang622 wrote:Julian Assange rearing his ugly head to accuse Donald Trump of offering him a pardon in exchange for a lie

This is scum on scum, hard to know what to make of it.

We already knew that was true. Just add it to the pile of treasonous quid pro quos. It won't matter.

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Wolfgang622 wrote:Julian Assange rearing his ugly head to accuse Donald Trump of offering him a pardon in exchange for a lie

This is scum on scum, hard to know what to make of it.

Gotta think Assange has the receipts if they're playing this card.

Also, if true, it's not even the "sorta" treason Trump keeps getting away with...it's actually treason. He offered a pardon to help a foreign enemy that had fucking attacked our election.

Blagojevich got his TV time to declare himself a Trump-o-crat. Said no one in this country has ever done more prison reform the Trump and Jared.

Can't wait until he votes for Trump next cycle. Oh, snap felons can't vote.

Trump's tweet that Blagojevich did not sell the senate seat is accurate as he offered it for purchase but failed to close the deal.

We should put this to bed right now: Bill Barr is not going anywhere. His tantrum means nothing against his quest to expand the power of the presidency to be absolute.

thephan wrote:Blagojevich got his TV time to declare himself a Trump-o-crat. Said no one in this country has ever done more prison reform the Trump and Jared.

Can't wait until he votes for Trump next cycle. Oh, snap felons can't vote.

Ex-felons can vote in Illinois (where I assume he is registered).

Grenell being named acting DNI is like half a step from me getting that job.

Oracle head lobbied the F out of Trump. He used their talking points the shut AWS out of DOD JEDI (under protest), and not now hid adminstration is pushing Oracle over Google where Oracle wants compensation for 11500 lines of code used in Android.

Oracle's CEO was on the Trump transition team.

If Warren's first lob is any indication, Bloomberg is going to get destroyed tonight.