there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

in a few weeks when he's got it sewed up i'm gonna start a bernie sanders unity thread. members will be polled if they plan to vote bernie.

da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

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thephan wrote:I get that bad ass, but I think that trying to turn socialism into word salad is kind of a dumb approach

I think it's a decent idea. And something that needs to be at the forefront.

yep. if they're going to capitalize on mischaracterization of this then by all means water that word down as much as possible.

Squire wrote:

da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

make sure you sign the unity pledge when the time comes.

turn it into "Democratic socialism vs. corporate socialism".

bernie really shouldn't call himself a socialist though. thats definitely his diva showing. especially because hes not even a socialist so it just exudes this "trying to be an outsider" vibe. i'll still vote for him though!

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da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

sure some twitter lefties are gonna sit home or vote 3rd party but i was talking more non voters/independents/first time voters who now won't vote because the nomination was stolen by a billionaire. moderates are the republicans of the democrat party they fall in line, and i thank them for that. now we get to nominate a reformist candidate.

Squire wrote:

da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

This shit (along with DNC fuckery) is why Bernie fans don’t respond well to other candidates. Bernie did more campaign events for Hillary than she did for Obama in 08 and we still had to hear about how it was his fault that she lost the election.

These kinds of comments are alienating a large and energetic voting bloc and are making them care more about the candidate and less about the party.

Squire wrote:

da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

I think both of these takes are wrong this time around. The biggest increase in voter turnout needs to be minority voters in cities. I think most of the candidates can do that with the right strategy post-nomination, though some will have a bigger uphill climb.

I was in high school in 2004, but there seemed to be more confidence in overthrowing a more popular incumbent than there is in defeating the current occupant.

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Squire wrote:

da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

This #$!&@ (along with DNC #$!&@) is why Bernie fans don’t respond well to other candidates. Bernie did more campaign events for Hillary than she did for Obama in 08 and we still had to hear about how it was his fault that she lost the election.

These kinds of comments are alienating a large and energetic voting bloc and are making them care more about the candidate and less about the party.

Apologies for the loaded language. However, I think the point remains the same. Sanders supporters are less likely and candidly is say much less likely to support a non-Sanders nominee then the other candidates supporters are. Newsweek just had polling data to this affect though the yang supporters were the worst. I acknowledge that it's not perfect because it's not a one to one comparison (I.e. Buttigieg supporters might be envisioning having to support Klobuchar)

https://www.newsweek.com/over-40-andrew ... democratic

Ultimately I am agreeing with the central point which is that sanders is the most likely to maximize Registered democratic votes.

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Squire wrote:

Gimpy wrote:

Squire wrote:

da_bad_ass wrote:there will be a depressed turnout with every other democratic candidate except liz but her campaign is dying. it HAS to be bernie. if bloomberg buys the nomination turnout will plummet

Agreed. Because by and large the Bernie supporters are petulent whereas the Centrist Dems are team players who view Trump as the actual problem.

This #$!&@ (along with DNC #$!&@) is why Bernie fans don’t respond well to other candidates. Bernie did more campaign events for Hillary than she did for Obama in 08 and we still had to hear about how it was his fault that she lost the election.

These kinds of comments are alienating a large and energetic voting bloc and are making them care more about the candidate and less about the party.

Apologies for the loaded language. However, I think the point remains the same. Sanders supporters are less likely and candidly is say much less likely to support a non-Sanders nominee then the other candidates supporters are. Newsweek just had polling data to this affect though the yang supporters were the worst. I acknowledge that it's not perfect because it's not a one to one comparison (I.e. Buttigieg supporters might be envisioning having to support Klobuchar)

https://www.newsweek.com/over-40-andrew ... democratic

Ultimately I am agreeing with the central point which is that sanders is the most likely to maximize Registered democratic votes.

i expect bernie bros to sit out in comfortably blue states and mostly turn out in swing states if hes not the nom. but a lot of abstainers are also politically aware so they might just do a never trump and turn out and only vote down ballot, which is better than nothing.

^^^ which strengthens my key point that the most important voters to win to beat trump are non voters, first timers, independents, and former obama voters who haven't voted since.

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Obvious tip of the hand about his intention to pardon Stone and possibly others. Change the law a poke at the horror of trying for three terms?

McConnell says he thinks Trump should listen to Barr’s advice.

momadance wrote:

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I don't know if he actually tweeted this. I'm pretty sure this is fake, just by checking out a few archived/deleted tweet sites.

https://projects.propublica.org/politwo ... onaldTrump

Press Secretary Has a lot of free time to be on favorable TV programs giving her options. I guess that works since she is paid to no engage the actual press.

Your right slugs, I do not see it.

This one is pretty choice:

Feb 13, 2020 09:10:08 AM
DRAIN THE SWAMP! We want bad people out of our government!

If he only knew