was there ever an analysis done as to what the outcome would've been if all 50+ territories had proportional allocation? I assume that would be by congressional district....

It's gonna be Bernie, folks. It's easier to make your peace with it now than somehow trick yourself into voting Trump because you fear "socialism" that is really just warmed over social democratic program.

I am tending to think that Bernie has the best chance to beat Trump. But only because I believe that the Democratic centrists are much more likely to come out and support Bernie then I am convinced that the "Bernie Bros" wouldn't just petulently either stay home or find their next Jill Stein and hand another 4 years to Trump if Bernie doesn't get the nomination.

Bucky wrote:was there ever an analysis done as to what the outcome would've been if all 50+ territories had proportional allocation? I assume that would be by congressional district....

It’s probably impossible to do post hoc since candidates who may have been more viable changed strategies or quit as they fell behind further.

Bucky wrote:is it a TRUMP judge or an OBUMMER judge

Amy Berman jackson, nominated by Obama, confirmed 97-0

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... -in-prison

Senior Justice Department officials intervened to overrule front-line prosecutors and will recommend a more lenient sentence for Roger J. Stone Jr., convicted last year of impeding investigators in a bid to protect his longtime friend President Trump, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The highly unusual move prompted one of the government’s key prosecutors to resign and another to withdraw from the case.

I admire their doing what's right but it's pathetically ineffective against a tyrant like Trump. Hopefully the Judge has the courage to throw the book at Stone and withstand the tweet storm and threats to follow.

pacino wrote:It's gonna be Bernie, folks. It's easier to make your peace with it now than somehow trick yourself into voting Trump because you fear "socialism" that is really just warmed over social democratic program.

I'm shocked that NH nearest neighbor VT senator might do well up in the NE.

Will Don start pardoning his pals now that he's a made man?

Not if, only when.

thephan wrote:

pacino wrote:It's gonna be Bernie, folks. It's easier to make your peace with it now than somehow trick yourself into voting Trump because you fear "socialism" that is really just warmed over social democratic program.

I'm shocked that NH nearest neighbor VT senator might do well up in the NE.

The biggest thing that is disappointing to me is that "main line" Democrats, a great many of whom are college-educated, and particularly the party elite, who are certainly savvy enough to understand how the world works, are so unwilling even to try a standard bearer who will push the party unabashedly to the left. All we are talking about is re-setting the conversation and the agenda. Just as the right did with the ascension of Reagan, to the right, and continuing since then. Bernie Sanders getting elected, were it to happen, does not mean we will be a fully functioning collectivist state a week later. We'd be lucky to get what Obama should have pushed harder for in the first place (a largely private health care system with a guaranteed public option of last resort). Maybe we might get a favorable labor law or two passed while we were at it. There's still a Congress after all, much as Trump has neutered it.

I realize the scars of the 1980s and Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis run deep, but it's been 30 years. Hillary Clinton and the moderate wing simply do not speak to the up and coming generation of Democratic voters. Why? The old heads think it's because we haven't lived through a massacre of epic proportions, like Carter/Mondale/Dukakis. Maybe so. But maybe it's because the world has changed, the pendulum has swung too far one way, and now in the natural order of things it is time for it to swing back.

JFLNYC wrote:

Senior Justice Department officials intervened to overrule front-line prosecutors and will recommend a more lenient sentence for Roger J. Stone Jr., convicted last year of impeding investigators in a bid to protect his longtime friend President Trump, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The highly unusual move prompted one of the government’s key prosecutors to resign and another to withdraw from the case.

I admire their doing what's right but it's pathetically ineffective against a tyrant like Trump. Hopefully the Judge has the courage to throw the book at Stone and withstand the tweet storm and threats to follow.

I would guess that Judge Jackson will remember Stone threatening her life when it comes time for sentencing.

Bucky wrote:is it a TRUMP judge or an OBUMMER judge

The truly sad part is this is what we've legitimately come to.

The courts are not independent bodies anymore. They make political rulings on both sides regardless of the actual law.

I don't care what your political leanings are, the 9 year prison term recommended sentence for Stone is absolutely disgraceful and complete abuse of power. Whoever put that together should be fired rather than have the opportunity to resign and play martyr.

Everything in this country is completely polarized and it's a disheartening situation.

JFLNYC wrote:

Senior Justice Department officials intervened to overrule front-line prosecutors and will recommend a more lenient sentence for Roger J. Stone Jr., convicted last year of impeding investigators in a bid to protect his longtime friend President Trump, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The highly unusual move prompted one of the government’s key prosecutors to resign and another to withdraw from the case.

I admire their doing what's right but it's pathetically ineffective against a tyrant like Trump. Hopefully the Judge has the courage to throw the book at Stone and withstand the tweet storm and threats to follow.

He should then be pardoned. You're "throwing the book" who did nothing more than pretend he had a connection to Wikileaks to make himself look important.

traderdave wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

Senior Justice Department officials intervened to overrule front-line prosecutors and will recommend a more lenient sentence for Roger J. Stone Jr., convicted last year of impeding investigators in a bid to protect his longtime friend President Trump, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The highly unusual move prompted one of the government’s key prosecutors to resign and another to withdraw from the case.

I admire their doing what's right but it's pathetically ineffective against a tyrant like Trump. Hopefully the Judge has the courage to throw the book at Stone and withstand the tweet storm and threats to follow.

I would guess that Judge Jackson will remember Stone threatening her life when it comes time for sentencing.

Yep...........don't sentence based on the actual "crime", sentence based on your dislike for the defendent!

Joke.

Marsha Blackburn is back to who she is: blocked 3 election security bills. Got to stop asking for unanimous consent because the committees have their cronies.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4825 ... -bills?amp

There are a few disgraceful things about the federal courts. Those include:
-Trump nominating (and Mitch forcing through) judge after judge that are rated as being under or unqualified by the ABA
-Mitch blocking Merrick Garland for no legitimate reason
-The entire Kavanaugh debacle

“Both sides”-ing up some argument about political judges is Trump-ish as fuck.

(Trump-ish being defined as a statement that is either so disingenuous or stupid that you can’t tell if you’re being trolled or if the person who made the comment had a lobotomy at some point)

Brantt wrote:

traderdave wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

Senior Justice Department officials intervened to overrule front-line prosecutors and will recommend a more lenient sentence for Roger J. Stone Jr., convicted last year of impeding investigators in a bid to protect his longtime friend President Trump, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The highly unusual move prompted one of the government’s key prosecutors to resign and another to withdraw from the case.

I admire their doing what's right but it's pathetically ineffective against a tyrant like Trump. Hopefully the Judge has the courage to throw the book at Stone and withstand the tweet storm and threats to follow.

I would guess that Judge Jackson will remember Stone threatening her life when it comes time for sentencing.

Yep...........don't sentence based on the actual "crime", sentence based on your dislike for the defendent!

Joke.

Very interesting that you think violating a gag order to make social media threats should be free of repercussions.

Brantt wrote:

traderdave wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

Senior Justice Department officials intervened to overrule front-line prosecutors and will recommend a more lenient sentence for Roger J. Stone Jr., convicted last year of impeding investigators in a bid to protect his longtime friend President Trump, a senior department official said Tuesday.

The highly unusual move prompted one of the government’s key prosecutors to resign and another to withdraw from the case.

I admire their doing what's right but it's pathetically ineffective against a tyrant like Trump. Hopefully the Judge has the courage to throw the book at Stone and withstand the tweet storm and threats to follow.

I would guess that Judge Jackson will remember Stone threatening her life when it comes time for sentencing.

Yep...........don't sentence based on the actual "crime", sentence based on your dislike for the defendent!

Joke.

Well, the threat did violate a gag order.

Gimpy wrote:There are a few disgraceful things about the federal courts. Those include:
-Trump nominating (and Mitch forcing through) judge after judge that are rated as being under or unqualified by the ABA
-Mitch blocking Merrick Garland for no legitimate reason
-The entire Kavanaugh debacle

“Both sides”-ing up some argument about political judges is Trump-ish as #$!&@.

(Trump-ish being defined as a statement that is either so disingenuous or stupid that you can’t tell if you’re being trolled or if the person who made the comment had a lobotomy at some point)

it's simply a tactic to muddy the waters to make it seem like 'everyone does it' but at least he's honest about it. they seek to delegitimize systems so they can simply manipulate them for their own sake

Prosecutor quit amid the stone case fiasco. <breaking news>