What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politics)

Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby JUburton » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:59:36

06hawkalum wrote:
JUburton wrote:The democrat could probably win by 5-7 points nationally and lose the electoral college. This is the new normal.


Seems like an exaggeration.
OK 7 is a bit high, but 5% is not. Dems have to win 51% to win the election. Reps have to get 47%.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1 ... 1724336129

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby pacino » Tue Nov 05, 2019 13:06:38

JUburton wrote:The democrat could probably win by 5-7 points nationally and lose the electoral college. This is the new normal.

The Democratic Governor of Mississippi could win his election by up to 9 points and still possibly lose because they have a statewide electoral college.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby pacino » Tue Nov 05, 2019 13:07:47

momadance wrote:Rand Paul should be in jail.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status ... 6766850048

The only time Paul remembers he's supposedly a libertarian is when it comes time to pay his taxes
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby JUburton » Tue Nov 05, 2019 13:13:36

pacino wrote:
JUburton wrote:The democrat could probably win by 5-7 points nationally and lose the electoral college. This is the new normal.

The Democratic Governor of Mississippi could win his election by up to 9 points and still possibly lose because they have a statewide electoral college.
Gotta look out for that urban overrepresentation!

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby JFLNYC » Tue Nov 05, 2019 13:15:13

JUburton wrote:
pacino wrote:
JUburton wrote:The democrat could probably win by 5-7 points nationally and lose the electoral college. This is the new normal.

The Democratic Governor of Mississippi could win his election by up to 9 points and still possibly lose because they have a statewide electoral college.
Gotta look out for that urban overrepresentation!


Why don't they just give the "others" only 2/3 of a vote and be done with any pretense.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 05, 2019 13:38:45

pacino wrote:
JUburton wrote:The democrat could probably win by 5-7 points nationally and lose the electoral college. This is the new normal.

The Democratic Governor of Mississippi could win his election by up to 9 points and still possibly lose because they have a statewide electoral college.

I think this is very likely to be overturned by the courts if Hood wins.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 05, 2019 13:41:43

FWIW from what I've seen both gov elections tonight are expected to be very close

Gun to head I'd take the Republican in both because, ya know, it's Kentucky and Mississippi, but it would not be at all surprising if the Dems won both

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Tue Nov 05, 2019 14:57:49

@AndrewDesiderio
BREAKING: Sondland significantly revised his testimony, saying he told a top Ukrainian official that the country would “likely” not receive military aid unless it announced investigations into Trump’s political rivals.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Tue Nov 05, 2019 15:13:33

So is Sondland a "Never Trumper" deep state plant now? lol

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Postby momadance » Tue Nov 05, 2019 15:43:50

Volker sent a text to a Ukrainian official of exactly what Zelensky should read in his announcement lol.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby pacino » Tue Nov 05, 2019 15:49:55

jerseyhoya wrote:FWIW from what I've seen both gov elections tonight are expected to be very close

Gun to head I'd take the Republican in both because, ya know, it's Kentucky and Mississippi, but it would not be at all surprising if the Dems won both

Doesn't Louisiana vote, too? I think he wins, Bevin loses, and the Hood race becomes a huge mess.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 05, 2019 15:52:34

pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:FWIW from what I've seen both gov elections tonight are expected to be very close

Gun to head I'd take the Republican in both because, ya know, it's Kentucky and Mississippi, but it would not be at all surprising if the Dems won both

Doesn't Louisiana vote, too? I think he wins, Bevin loses, and the Hood race becomes a huge mess.

Saturday the 16th for Louisiana

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Tue Nov 05, 2019 17:43:45

traderdave wrote:This also presents a good opportunity to reiterate something that I do not think is being said enough out in the real world - the whistleblower's complaint was fully borne out by the transcript released by the White House and by subsequent testimony in front of the House committees. I understand that this is a concept that escapes pea-brained Trump supporters but the whistleblower could be Hillary Clinton and it would not matter because the complaint was proven correct by the President's own words. What is happening is quite literally presidential harassment.


Close but its not a transcript. The whistle blower confirmed the document of unspecified origin that was stored into a system with classification markings, and then Declassified by order of the President September 24, 2019.

From that document:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a
discussion.
The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty
"Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned t_o listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form
as the conversation takes place. A numper of factors can affect 'the accuracy of the reco�d,
including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation.
The word "inaudible" is used to indifate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear


There is a solid chance that a verbatim transcript would be even more damning, and it would prove out other testimony given.

Its only 5 pages
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Tue Nov 05, 2019 17:48:58

momadance wrote:So is Sondland a "Never Trumper" deep state plant now? lol


TBF - This guy wanted to be an ambassador and did what he could to buy his way in. He was a Jeb guy, then a Trump guy, throwing money both times. So that makes him pretty sketchy , but he is a real estate hotel guy who might have a billion, so that makes him a chum.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Tue Nov 05, 2019 18:42:06


Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) on Tuesday said that House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) should be the first individual Republicans call to testify in the next phase of the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

Stefanik, a Republican member of the House Intelligence Committee, said on Fox News that Schiff needs to answer questions "under oath" in light of revelations that a government whistleblower corresponded with a House Intel panel aide before filing a complaint.



What a joke. The next plan is to make it into a complete circus by making ridiculous political arguments that are unmoored from the topic at hand. Clearly the plan is to turn this into a never Trumper‘s, deep state, collusion, witchhunt, but there’s no explainable way to offer legitimacy of calling effectively the prosecutor to take the stand.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Soren » Tue Nov 05, 2019 19:25:56

So, he skates right? This is all just a dog and pony show?
Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Werthless » Tue Nov 05, 2019 20:12:56

Soren wrote:So, he skates right? This is all just a dog and pony show?

I'm going in with that assumption. 1 in 3 sounds fair.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CFP » Tue Nov 05, 2019 20:29:28

Wow.

Wasserman: Breathitt Co. (eastern KY coal) 100% in: our benchmarks said Bevin (R) needed to win by 4%, Beshear (D) won it by 2%. More strength for Beshear in the east. #KYGOV

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Tue Nov 05, 2019 20:31:39

CFP wrote:Wow.

Wasserman: Breathitt Co. (eastern KY coal) 100% in: our benchmarks said Bevin (R) needed to win by 4%, Beshear (D) won it by 2%. More strength for Beshear in the east. #KYGOV


To be fair, 2% is only 64 votes. Pretty small benchmark.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Nov 05, 2019 20:35:49

Going to be really close

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