How many bills have the “do nothing” Democrats passed out of the house?

Uncle Milty wrote:Cant let myself believe 1 in 3. The tide didn't turn on Nixon until the people turned on him. Don't see that ever happening with Trump.

Fox News is a pretty big lever here. We're starting to see cracks in that wall of support.

who are the coward dems?

Squire wrote:I'm most interested in seeing how the vote in the Impeachment Inquiry Resolution turns out today. I'm hoping for some Republican votes. I do worry that it will be straight party line vote with a very small group of Democratic swing district defections.

My D rep is voting no. Fucking loser.

wolfgang, who do you like in the primary for PA 1?

https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania%27 ... l_District

CalvinBall wrote:who are the coward dems?

Reps. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) and Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.)

I sure hope Rep. Van Drew isn't planning on visiting the SJ Chamber anytime soon.

EDIT - This is not a threat of any kind!!!!

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BWAAWAWAWWAAWAWAWA. These people truly live in a fantasy world.

get 'em

Liz Cheney saying that Nancy Pelosi is jeopardizing national security by having the intelligence committee focus on impeachment lol

I think most people will be surprised when they start seeing public hearings show up on their nightly newscast

THEY WONT LET US INTO THE HEARINGS

THESE HEARINGS SHOULD NOT BE PUBLIC

hard to keep up

"This is a process that has been fundamentally tainted," Cheney said. "The President has had no rights inside these hearings, his counsel has not been able to be present, so from them now to claim that they're going to open this up — which, by the way, the resolution does not do."

Serious question (to which I believe the answer to be a resounding "NO"). Was Clinton able to present evidence, question witnesses, etc. (IOW, present a defense) during the House's work on his impeachment?

Serious question-has the post-1968 conservative movement made a single persuasive argument to the American people that wasn't based on lies, obfuscation, or simple denial of empirical reality?

Peace with honor
Welfare queens
War on drugs/just say no
Supply side economics
Gay is a choice
Climate change is fake
WMD in Iraq
Obama not real murican
Voter fraud widespread
Witch hunt
Impeachment is unconstitutional
Anything they say that starts with "The Founding Fathers..."

I know it's said that Trump is this strange departure from what a true Republican is, but I think he's right in line with the last 50 years.

The Keystone pipeline has leaked roughly 383,000 gallons of crude oil, impacting an estimated half-acre of wetland. Another Promise Made/Promise Kept. & Obama.

traderdave wrote:"This is a process that has been fundamentally tainted," Cheney said. "The President has had no rights inside these hearings, his counsel has not been able to be present, so from them now to claim that they're going to open this up — which, by the way, the resolution does not do."

Serious question (to which I believe the answer to be a resounding "NO"). Was Clinton able to present evidence, question witnesses, etc. (IOW, present a defense) during the House's work on his impeachment?

The investigative part for Clinton was handled by Kenneth Starr, Independent Counsel appointed by the DOJ. So, no, during that phase, IIRC Clinton had no right to counsel, present witnesses, etc., any more than any accused does during an investigation. Those rights are for later in the process. Of course in this case the corrupt AG wouldn’t even allow the appointment of a Special Counsel so the House has had to do that job itself.

JFLNYC wrote:

traderdave wrote:"This is a process that has been fundamentally tainted," Cheney said. "The President has had no rights inside these hearings, his counsel has not been able to be present, so from them now to claim that they're going to open this up — which, by the way, the resolution does not do."

Serious question (to which I believe the answer to be a resounding "NO"). Was Clinton able to present evidence, question witnesses, etc. (IOW, present a defense) during the House's work on his impeachment?

The investigative part for Clinton was handled by Kenneth Starr, Independent Counsel appointed by the DOJ. So, no, during that phase, IIRC Clinton had no right to counsel, present witnesses, etc., any more than any accused does during an investigation. Those rights are for later in the process. Of course in this case the corrupt AG wouldn’t even allow the appointment of a Special Counsel so the House has had to do that job itself.

Exactly. My point in confirming that to be the case is that GOPers were all up in arms about this being an "illegitimate" process because there was no House vote to approve the investigation, LIKE THERE WAS IN THE CLINTON IMPEACHMENT PROCESS. Now there has been a vote and it passed. So, if the Clinton impeachment process is the GOP model for the Trump process, why should Trump get all the bells and whistles at this point? Trump will get his chance to put his foot in his mouth defend himself during the Senate trial. They are absolutely grasping at straws.

oh wow didn't expect this to get as far as it has. man it would be awesome if pence had to run in the general. no chance of it happening though. hopefully trump answering questions like an idiot at the stand doesn't help skyrocket his popularity

thephan wrote:The Keystone pipeline has leaked roughly 383,000 gallons of crude oil, impacting an estimated half-acre of wetland. Another Promise Made/Promise Kept. & Obama.

this is sad.

thephan wrote:The Keystone pipeline has leaked roughly 383,000 gallons of crude oil, impacting an estimated half-acre of wetland. Another Promise Made/Promise Kept. & Obama.

This is a typo, right? 383,000 gallons and the damage was limited a half-acre??