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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Werthless » Sat Feb 02, 2019 14:24:06

MDs that decide to enter politics... Not a representative sample of doctors. :) Who the hell would go through the pain of med school and then later decide they want to go into politics?

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sat Feb 02, 2019 16:06:07

jerseyhoya wrote:After apologizing for being in the picture yesterday Northam is telling Virginia Dems he isn't in the picture and isn't resigning.

A public relations tour de force from the governor.


It seems to be getting not better.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby slugsrbad » Sat Feb 02, 2019 16:14:06

This PC seems embarrassing from the quotes I'm seeing. He should have resigned if this is how he was going to react.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Feb 02, 2019 17:08:45

The "I said I was in the picture because I initially confused it with the other time I wore blackface" defense is one you just have to tip your cap to.

Also it is a shame his wife told him not to do the moonwalk.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sat Feb 02, 2019 20:47:38

Super warm welcome for Stone at the Women for Trump 2020 rally. Chant of encouragement and cheers. Seriously, he is there. Its hard to imagine.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sat Feb 02, 2019 20:55:24

Deutsche Bank turned Trump down for loan in 2016


Lots of stories around about this. Part of the deal is that there was some concern that he might stiff them, then they would need to figure out if they were going to foreclose on the President.

Team Trump - LIES
Team Deutsche Bank - FFS we can't talk about clients and speculative deals
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby The Savior » Sat Feb 02, 2019 21:22:34

I hope someone is unearthing how trump managed to grow his business with equity in the 2010s especially since he was adamant about doing just that.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sat Feb 02, 2019 22:42:13

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders told the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) that she believes that God put Donald Trump in the White House, CBN reported Wednesday.
- the hill

All that is missing is all the Christian stuff.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sat Feb 02, 2019 22:54:18

An official line from the White House on President Trump’s complexion is that his skin color is the result of “good genes,” a senior administration official told The New York Times.

The official, who spoke to The Times on the condition of anonymity, added that the president applies a dab of powder to his skin before making appearances on television.

But the official said the powder is translucent and added that it is not a bronzer.


LoFrigginL
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Feb 02, 2019 23:30:50

Every person on TV wears makeup. A dab of powder. Ha.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby swishnicholson » Sun Feb 03, 2019 00:57:49

jerseyhoya wrote:The "I said I was in the picture because I initially confused it with the other time I wore blackface" defense is one you just have to tip your cap to.



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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sun Feb 03, 2019 08:56:14

I’ve read two articles about Denver Colorado is pushed to decriminalize magic mushrooms. Neither article gives any reason why other than that they collected enough signatures to vote on the matter. I can’t say that I really understand. Maybe there is some medical benefit but I thought that would’ve come up in the articles. My overriding concern with this stuff is always the under the influence aspect of it, and not really knowing how to reasonably assess people without a somewhat short visit to a jail cell.

One thing that I should point out is this is legalization, not commercialization. Then again isn’t one something that would conceivably open the door for the other?
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sun Feb 03, 2019 09:25:39

To my surprise my commonwealth still has the same governor this morning.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby thephan » Sun Feb 03, 2019 09:27:48

amazingly, the golfer in chief**, who has transgressions longer than my arm if printed out and eight point font, is on the attack. Could the hypocrisy be more egregious?

** also impressive is that no one even cares anymore.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby TomatoPie » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:25:21

I grew up in an openly racist America; it's hard to explain how that was normal to us.

I was watching Laugh-In in 1969. I remembered it as being more progressive and diverse than most programming of that era, but this blackface minstrel spoof is cringe inducing.

I'm sure that few raised an eyebrow then.

The skit involved all sorts of otherwise respectable pros: Rowan, Martin, Judy Carne, Goldie Hawn, even a cameo by Tony Curtis ...

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:19:36

I think those are fair points, but I also think he has to go. If he was a republican, they would be circling the wagons and looking for ways to keep him viable long enough for it to pass. But he's not a republican, he's a democrat and he has to be held to the standards of that party.

I think TPM summed up my position pretty well...

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a- ... ph-northam

You can come back from almost anything in public life, certainly when something is decades in the past. As we discussed recently in a related context, second chances are one of the most important things about a humane, moral society. That remains true if some get fourth and fifth chances and some get none. There are not a few examples of the most hardcare anti-abolitionists in the pre-Civil War era who were radicalized into the most diehard abolitionists during and after the war and became aggressive defenders of racial equality. People change and we should be open to their change if it seems genuine and productive.

But change requires … well, change. The missing part of the puzzle is that if Northam was the man who put together that page and appeared in those photos and later became the man he seemed to be until yesterday afternoon, he needed to make some public accounting of how and why that happened. That may not be necessary for a private person but it is for someone in elected office. That doesn’t need to be self-flagellation but it does require some explanation. By failing to do that he made possible the breach that occurred last night in which the faith millions of Virginians had placed in him was just broken and probably broken irretrievably.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby pacino » Sun Feb 03, 2019 13:52:51

It was the mid 1980s, not 1780s

Fuck this guy
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby PhillieMooDo » Sun Feb 03, 2019 14:04:57

pacino wrote:It was the mid 1980s, not 1780s

Fuck this guy

Yep.
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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby Bucky » Sun Feb 03, 2019 14:17:19

I think you younger guys may not have a feel of these times. I want to word this carefully- but people were less aware of insensitivity 'back then'. Was it wrong? Absolutely. But lots of people weren't 'woke' enough to realize just how wrong it was. Blackface was just comedy to large chunks of decent people.

Now the KKK thing- that was always bad. And the pic itself- likely a halloween party I'm thinking. Blackface dude, no matter how innocent his initial intentions, had to be stupid to not realize that posing with the white hood guy was just plain wrong.

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Re: Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Feb 03, 2019 15:36:33

I don’t know any decent people who thought blackface was acceptable comedy in the 1980’s (or even the 70’s or late 60’s). As long as I can remember going back to my youth in the 60’s I was always under the impression (correct or not) that blackface was not only wrong but illegal.
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