Politics: 2 All Beef Patties, Shutdown on a Bob Mueller Bun

by **thephan** » Sun Jan 27, 2019 21:52:54

Mulvaney said the president didn’t want another shutdown, but he would do it if necessary.

by **joboggi** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 03:19:17

What is so special about these 200 miles of border, and where are they?

In other news

Howard Shultz is running as an independent on the coffee platform.

Free coffee for anyone who votes for him, for one year.

by **06hawkalum** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 08:29:46

I wouldn't get too up in arms about Schultz. He has zero name recognition and probably doesn't have the bankroll necessary to stay afloat for the next 22 months.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 08:57:49

With an estimated net worth of $3B, a conservative ROI of 5% makes him $400K every day or about $12MM every month. His campaign costs would be little more than a rounding error for him.

by **06hawkalum** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 09:08:04

JFLNYC wrote:With an estimated net worth of $3B, a conservative ROI of 5% makes him $400K every day or about $12MM every month. His campaign costs would be little more than a rounding error for him.

6.5 billion was spent on the 2016 election.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 09:19:29

06hawkalum wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:With an estimated net worth of $3B, a conservative ROI of 5% makes him $400K every day or about $12MM every month. His campaign costs would be little more than a rounding error for him.

6.5 billion was spent on the 2016 election.

Trump Campaign spent $398MM of which $66MM was Trump’s personal money — about 6 months worth of interest for Schultz.

by **traderdave** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 09:29:07

The Savior wrote:Glad main networks are giving an accused felon an audience to speak to.

What, don't all defendants have an opportunity to make their case to potential jurors before trial?

by **Werthless** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 09:44:56

06hawkalum wrote:I wouldn't get too up in arms about Schultz. He has zero name recognition and probably doesn't have the bankroll necessary to stay afloat for the next 22 months.

It's funny, I was thinking those are the two things he has to his advantage. "Hi, I'm the long-time CEO of Starbucks."

by **JUburton** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:13:46

He can very easily afford to blow 200-500m if he wants. I assume that as he polls at 2-3% he'll quit at some point.

by **traderdave** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:26:28

Don't know who wrote John Kerry's bits but these are pretty good (from the annual Alfalfa Club dinner):

"This is the only speech in Washington that hasn't been canceled by Nancy Pelosi"

"I got to tell you, you all look incredibly dapper tonight in your ball gowns, your tuxedos, your bow ties and your cummerbunds, or as we call it at our house: workout gear. Or as we call it at our other house: pajamas. Or as we call it at our other house: swimming costumes. But tonight it looks like I've done something Donald Trump can only dream of: finishing my term."

"Donald Trump could be the first President to go to the inaugural of his successor in a limo with license plates made by his campaign manager."

"I think we've all noticed, there's been a lot of turnover in this administration. Secretary (Ryan) Zinke was fired. Reince Priebus was fired. Rex Tillerson, Gen. McMaster, Jeff Sessions -- all fired. One thing you can say about the Trump people -- they're not quitters. Wilbur Ross is here. I want to thank him for taking care of dessert. He went to the kitchen and said, 'Let them eat cake.'"

"Just think, Mitt and I are two of the only people who understand the temptation to run for office in every state where you own a home."

"I watched the Oscar nominations a few days ago. And afterwards every single actor said what a great honor it was just to be nominated. ... Trust me: It's not."

by **pacino** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:27:23

The only people that want this dope to run are paid Republicans and CEOs and Wall St types

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:45:08

You’re going to have to be more specific when you use the term “dope” in this context.

by **thephan** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 13:03:34

AP: Shutdown projected to cause $3B permanent hit to economy, Congressional Budget Office reports

CNBC

•The federal government shutdown cost the economy $11 billion, according to a new analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
•Although most of the damage to the economy will be reversed as federal workers return to their jobs, the CBO estimated $3 billion in economic activity is permanently lost.
•Overall, the CBO projected economic growth will slow this year to 2.3 percent, compared with the 3.1 percent rate last year, as the benefits of the new tax law begin to fade.

Good job.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 13:11:52

So much winning.

by **thephan** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 13:31:19

Just wait for the sequel.

by **thephan** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 13:39:36

Why is Graham so bananas over building the wall? He is on a road show demanding it be funded, and urging a National Emergency declaration. I would imagine he has been on tours of castles that fell, heard of the failure of the Maginot Line, and is just a tad bit familiar with why the Great Wall did not hold. Maybe I am giving him too much credit.

Hadrian's wall a moderate because its purpose was to disrupt raids, but it certainly had no lasting impact aside from supplying citizens with readily available quarried stone for future homes.

by **The Savior** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 14:05:02

They all want the emergency because it takes shutdown off the table and moves discussion to page 6. Trump can pretend he won and then blame Dems when it loses in courts.

by **The Crimson Cyclone** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 14:10:23

The Savior wrote:They all want the emergency because it takes shutdown off the table and moves discussion to page 6. Trump can pretend he won and then blame Dems when it loses in courts.

if you're the Dems would you play long term strategy and say you won't sue over the National Emergency so you can declare one for health care for all or climate change later and watch the GOP squirm

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 14:17:06

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
The Savior wrote:They all want the emergency because it takes shutdown off the table and moves discussion to page 6. Trump can pretend he won and then blame Dems when it loses in courts.

if you're the Dems would you play long term strategy and say you won't sue over the National Emergency so you can declare one for health care for all or climate change later and watch the GOP squirm

No because that's not how law or government works?

by **Bucky** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 14:17:54

i think that's the point he proposes they try to prove

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