The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JUburton » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:03:59

jerseyhoya wrote:
JUburton wrote:Doesn't this mean nothing?

That said, I think this gives cover for collins/murkowski to vote no.

If Flake and at least one of Collins/Murkowski won't vote tomorrow to limit debate, Dems can filibuster.
Hm, good point. Forgot about cloture.

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JUburton » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:05:36

Also should not be underestimated that the FBI investigation can't do anything in a week and they get a vote through anyway wheeeeeeeeeeee

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:06:48

JUburton wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
JUburton wrote:Doesn't this mean nothing?

That said, I think this gives cover for collins/murkowski to vote no.

If Flake and at least one of Collins/Murkowski won't vote tomorrow to limit debate, Dems can filibuster.
Hm, good point. Forgot about cloture.


what does his haircut have to do with anything

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:09:00

Gives Turtle a week to whip the votes too. Mitch could go crazy and try a vote. Why would Graham think he needs to explain this to Trump?
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JUburton » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:11:45

thephan wrote:Gives Turtle a week to whip the votes too. Mitch could go crazy and try a vote. Why would Graham think he needs to explain this to Trump?
He's basically their gobetween. So to me it goes like this:

1. They request Trump let the FBI investigate and they say no - Flake etc. probably vote no and Kavanaugh goes down.
2. McConnell ignores the whole thing and they go to the floor - same thing
3. FBI investigation/delay happens and finds no absolute smoking gun - all Rs fall in line
4. FBI investigation/delay happens and finds something serious discrepancies etc. - Kavanaugh probably goes down

I think 3 is the most likely option unfortunately.

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Titlehungry » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:14:09

Graham is basically saying Flake is a good guy but not me, I wouldn't do it cause I'm a scumbag
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby The Savior » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:14:32

Delays allow for polling to be updated and adjusted. That’s an added risk.
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Titlehungry » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:15:45

A very fine woman
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:36:38

Please save us Jeff Flake

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:38:23

Bravo to Jeff Flake for having the decency and integrity to make that decision. By doing the right thing I think, among other positive things, he may actually be saving the Pubs from themselves.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:40:43

Is the waiting period a done deal? Won't turtle just ignore it and call for the floor vote? THEN we'll see what Flake is made of.

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 28, 2018 14:46:51

McConnell won’t do the vote unless he’s sure it will pass. I’m also guessing Flake’s announcement will also give Murkowski and/or Collins political cover to also call for FBI investigation before the vote.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 28, 2018 15:17:14

I put a small amount of money last night on him not to be confirmed at +325. Yes is now -170, No is +140 so that's moving in the right direction.

Also bet $50 on the Dems taking the House at -220. That's implied odds of under 70% which seems wild.

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Fri Sep 28, 2018 15:20:41

Heard some automatons talking about Dr. Ford... "But she can fly around the world to see people and do things, she's a liar."
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Slowhand » Fri Sep 28, 2018 15:38:43

thephan wrote:Heard some automatons talking about Dr. Ford... "But she can fly around the world to see people and do things, she's a liar."


What does that even mean?
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Bucky » Fri Sep 28, 2018 16:03:53

Judge says he will talk

will Bill W make him tell the truth???

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 28, 2018 16:05:36

It’s a program of rigorous honesty.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby heyeaglefn » Fri Sep 28, 2018 16:36:12

Slowhand wrote:
thephan wrote:Heard some automatons talking about Dr. Ford... "But she can fly around the world to see people and do things, she's a liar."


What does that even mean?

Republicans are saying she flies often for her personal travel and hobbies, which is why they brought it up multiple times during her interview, but wasn't willing to fly to Washington for her civic duty or something like that. So she was lying about hating to fly since she does it so often was what they were trying to say.

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Fri Sep 28, 2018 16:41:17

Sorry, I was trying to capture the moment of this man and woman having that very discussion. The woman was all in on it too.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 16:45:22

jerseyhoya wrote:I put a small amount of money last night on him not to be confirmed at +325. Yes is now -170, No is +140 so that's moving in the right direction.

Also bet $50 on the Dems taking the House at -220. That's implied odds of under 70% which seems wild.


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