SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Fri Aug 10, 2018 23:45:04

Obviously my party is more responsible for the broken state of American politics and the current president is an assclown and all of that

But this whole Avenatti boomlet that the press is indulging seems like another step on our descent into awfulness. Why does anyone pretend it is real?

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby The Sarge » Fri Aug 10, 2018 23:57:58

Corey Stewart blames his blatantly racist tweet on a "vendor"



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My vendor put out a tweet that attempted to link a Michigan gubernatorial candidate to ISIS. There is no evidence supporting this assertion. I don't believe in guilt-by-association – I have been the target of very similar smears, and I won't use such tactics against others.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sat Aug 11, 2018 00:09:14

The Sarge wrote:Corey Stewart blames his blatantly racist tweet on a "vendor"



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My vendor put out a tweet that attempted to link a Michigan gubernatorial candidate to ISIS. There is no evidence supporting this assertion. I don't believe in guilt-by-association – I have been the target of very similar smears, and I won't use such tactics against others.


Love the "no evidence supporting this" weasel too. And I guess the Communist and Sharia Law things were okey dokey.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sat Aug 11, 2018 00:30:33

jerseyhoya wrote:Obviously my party is more responsible for the broken state of American politics and the current president is an assclown and all of that

But this whole Avenatti boomlet that the press is indulging seems like another step on our descent into awfulness. Why does anyone pretend it is real?


You wouldn't think "Porn-star lawyer" would be the sort of resume to attract presidential attention, but these are strange days indeed.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby pacino » Sat Aug 11, 2018 07:06:12

swishnicholson wrote:
pacino wrote:the effect of this change is to allow asbestos to be used again. a 'nudge' is a known way to effect policy and behavior. it's a small way that makes it easier for companies to use asbestos since asbestos was never actually banned in the US and the way its used stopped was through the EPA considering it toxic and counting it in their evaluations.


Oh, I must have read it wrong. What are they allowing asbestos to be used for?

. HBN’s Board President Bill Walsh said that the chlor-alkali industry is the only industry in the country that still uses asbestos, reportedly importing about 480 tons of the carcinogen each year from Russia and Brazil.

Walsh pointed out to Fast Company that chlorine-based plastics are commonly found in building-product materials and that “virtually all” asbestos in the U.S. is used in the industrial process to make chlorine. This includes PVC and vinyl plastics, which is largely found in the creation of pipes, tiles, flooring, adhesives, paints, and roofing products.

Though the EPA is now easing its regulations against integrating the harmful toxin and others like it under the Trump administration, it will largely be the responsibility of local and state governments, as well as companies and informed consumers to counter these new federal moves. Walsh told Fast Company it’s up to sustainable building-product manufacturers and ultimately, architects to pressure the market.

it's up to the free market now, baby. if a company wants to re-introduce asbestos into their product, they'll simply be able to do it. there's nothing stopping them. if the companies currently using it want to increase its usage, there's nothing stopping them. the career staff at the EPA disagreed with this but it went ahead, anyway.


Under the rule, manufacturers of asbestos products would have to notify the EPA before an asbestos-containing item hits shelves to give the agency time to see whether it poses too high of a risk. This is mainly aimed at manufacturers that want to revive out-of-date uses for asbestos, like roofing felt, according to the EPA.

But environmental activists say this is insufficient protection. Instead, they want a blanket ban on the material and to close down the pipeline for any new uses. They point out that the EPA’s proposal makes determinations on the safety of asbestos products on a case-by-case basis, which means the agency could in theory approve new items for sale that contain the deadly carcinogen.

do we think the EPA that will allow this rule would also turn down every use?
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby pacino » Sat Aug 11, 2018 07:14:45

it's really weird to see what's going on with Turkey, and it'll simply exacerbate the scapegoating that Erdogan does on the homefront. there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the tariffs.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby pacino » Sat Aug 11, 2018 07:30:36

court orders ban on harmful pesticide, says EPA law:
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal appeals court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration endangered public health by keeping a widely used pesticide on the market despite extensive scientific evidence that even tiny levels of exposure can harm babies’ brains.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to remove chlorpyrifos from sale in the United States within 60 days.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 09:05:15

pacino wrote:it's really weird to see what's going on with Turkey, and it'll simply exacerbate the scapegoating that Erdogan does on the homefront. there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the tariffs.



I disagree. It further weakens NATO and drives Turkey into Russia's arms. Turkey sent envoys to Russia over the tariffs. Our government is being run by Putin.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby thephan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 16:10:37

Congressman Charged With Insider Trading Changes His Mind: He Won't Run Again


Hmmmm, wonder why? 210 pounds of hammer on the nail evidence the FBI wheeled in for his lawyers to review? Video played on loop of his panicky phone calls right at the time stamps the prosecutors showed it happened? He will always have tyat early support of Trump in his pocket to try to leverage a pardon.

getting Collins' name off the ballot may be difficult. After they've filed for their candidacy, New York state law gives candidates a three-day window to decline to be on the ballot. That window was in April, so it isn't an option for Collins. Being convicted of a crime or pleading guilty is also not grounds for being forced off the ballot, according to John Conklin, director of public information for the New York State Board of Elections.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 17:33:06

The Jewish State’s Nation-State Bill Non-Scandal

Anyone who follows the news from Israel knows that the Knesset last month passed legislation that takes the Jewish state a step closer to apartheid and outright theocracy. For instance, the bill explicitly authorizes Jewish-only communities and requires secular courts to adopt Jewish ritual law in certain cases. It also promotes the settlements.

Actually, the nation-state bill, as the legislation is known, does none of that. Nearly all of its most controversial provisions were stripped from it before passage. But you’d be forgiven for assuming otherwise based on the reaction to the bill — reaction that is far more revealing than the bill itself.


What the bill is not is the death of Israel’s democracy — it was enacted democratically and can be overturned the same way. It is not the death of Israeli civil liberties — still guaranteed under the 1992 Basic Law on Human Dignity and Liberty and visibly reaffirmed by the large public protests following the bill’s enactment. And it is not apartheid — a cheap slur from people whose grasp of the sinister mechanics of apartheid is as thin as their understanding of the complexities of Israeli politics.

Nor, for that matter, is it anywhere remotely as noxious as what is happening in other Western democracies wrestling with competing claims between national identity, civil liberties and cultural pluralism. In Denmark, The Times reported last month, “starting at the age of 1, ‘ghetto children’ must be separated from their families for at least 25 hours a week, not including nap time, for mandatory instruction in ‘Danish values,’ including the traditions of Christmas and Easter, and the Danish language.’”

Whatever else you think of Israel’s nation-state bill, this is undoubtedly worse. So where are the calls to boycott, divest and sanction Denmark?


However else you feel about the nation-state bill, reserve your serious outrage for the things that deserve it. An estimated 542 Syrian civilians were tortured to death last month by the Syrian regime, according to the Syrian Network For Human Rights. Did you know that?


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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby pacino » Sat Aug 11, 2018 21:32:47

it was an opinion piece written by right-wing Bret Stephens, so yes
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sun Aug 12, 2018 04:21:06

is it possible to not like what syria is doing AND not like what Israel is doing? If so, put me in that camp.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby JUburton » Sun Aug 12, 2018 07:12:08

Lmao the Denmark whattaboutism that’s good stuff

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby thephan » Sun Aug 12, 2018 13:12:44

Can't wait for Collins to be named Lackawanna dog catcher to clear the ballot.
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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby CFP » Sun Aug 12, 2018 14:29:24

Pretty serious domestic abuse allegations against Keith Ellison out there right now

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Aug 12, 2018 16:01:49

There are about 30 people at the white supremacist rally in DC.

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Aug 12, 2018 16:03:35

This is them.

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Aug 12, 2018 16:05:25

This is resembling the Boston rally.

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Aug 12, 2018 17:39:42

Welp

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#Breaking: White nationalist group led by Jason Kessler has left D.C. and are headed back to Vienna even before the Unite the Right 2 Rally was scheduled to begin. @nbcwashington

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Re: SharkNATO VII: Russia's Revenge (Politics Thread)

Unread postby thephan » Sun Aug 12, 2018 19:32:58

That was sweet. The counter protesters measure in the thousands. I was actually concerned about violence in the name of racism coming to the capital city.
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