From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 06:57:14

No to hole the theories, but that jacket, with the phrase on it from the factory, is stock goods (~$40).

Now you have 4 choices:

a) it was to stick Don in the eye,
b) she is more the ice cold witch that she stylizes, and less compassionate soul that we want her to be,
c) she really is lashing out at the media like grandpa tweets,
d) she had no idea people would take it the way they did, even after the world gasp when she boarded the plane which she had to know before the return.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 07:00:09

Saw the DHS secretary was unable to explain even the simplest things about her department WRT the refugee children. I wanted someone, anyone, to ask that she goes and get whoever actually runs DHS because she clearly is not.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Fri Jun 22, 2018 07:17:31

thephan wrote:No to hole the theories, but that jacket, with the phrase on it from the factory, is stock goods (~$40).

Now you have 4 choices:

a) it was to stick Don in the eye,
b) she is more the ice cold witch that she stylizes, and less compassionate soul that we want her to be,
c) she really is lashing out at the media like grandpa tweets,
d) she had no idea people would take it the way they did, even after the world gasp when she boarded the plane which she had to know before the return.


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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 07:25:55

so while this pot of piss is cycling through the news, what terrible thing is lurking in the shadows?
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Fri Jun 22, 2018 07:46:07

I have another theory about the jacket--she was paid to wear it. You'll be seeing lots of them in stores soon.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 22, 2018 07:52:48

Kris Kobach ignores courts, enforces voting law ruled unconstitutional:
The elections director for Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach told county clerks Wednesday to comply with a federal court ruling that bans voter registration requirements, reversing preliminary guidance that left the issue in limbo for two days.

Although Kobach doesn't have authority over independently elected county clerks, many rely on his office for an understanding of how to handle elections. In a conference call Tuesday, elections director Bryan Caskey told them to continue enforcing the state's proof-of-citizenship law while Kobach's office reviewed Monday's 118-page ruling from U.S. District Judge Julie Robinson.

Robinson said the law was unconstitutional and -- because Kobach has a "well-documented history of avoiding this court's orders" -- explicitly directed him to instruct counties to comply with her ruling

Danedri Herbert, a spokeswoman for Kobach, said it wasn't clear how soon those instructions should be made.

"I think 'immediately' is kind of open to interpretation," she said.


various clerks are doing various things, some are following the ruling and some are ignoring it and feigning ignorance:
Nancy McCarter, the county clerk and election official for Pottawatomie County, said Caskey advised clerks "to continue as we have been." If someone had registered to vote Wednesday morning, she said, the individual would have needed a birth certificate or other document.

Saline County Clerk Jamie Allen said she hadn't read the judge's order and was waiting for information because state officials "give us our standards."

Others, like Douglas County Clerk Jamie Shew, understood the judge's demands and scrubbed references to proof-of-citizenship requirements from the county's website.

"As county clerk," Shew said, "I am responsible for the citizens of our county and not to the SOS office. Therefore, we made the decision that served those citizens as a response to what the judge clearly stated in her ruling."

Caskey made things clear to everyone in an email he sent to clerks Wednesday afternoon.

"Do not ask for documentary proof of citizenship of any voter registration applicant," his directions said.

i wonder what it's like to live in a thriving democracy? i wouldn't know since i live in a banana republic
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 07:57:48

TenuredVulture wrote:I have another theory about the jacket--she was paid to wear it. You'll be seeing lots of them in stores soon.


Its last season's fashion from Zara. So it was already available, and how they can clear out stock. So maybe already paid to get eyeballs on Zara's website.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 08:08:12

BTW, over there in the corner there are schemes to combine Federal agencies like:

- combine education and Labor departments,
- USDA nutrition assistance programs(SNAP) to HHS (with a new name of the Department of Health and Public Welfare),
- USDA rural housing loan guarantee and rental assistance programs to HUD,
- remove the word "food" from the FDA so that the agency can "focus on drugs, devices, biologics, tobacco, dietary supplements, and cosmetics",
- food safety would be reorganized into a single agency within the USDA called the Federal Food Safety Agency',
- the US Postal Service would be restructured to return it to a sustainable business model or prepare it for future conversion from a government agency to a privately held corporation (that will keel over and die),
- the Federal Aviation Administration's air traffic control system would spin off to a nonprofit organization.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 22, 2018 08:11:50

they want to gut everything that helps people
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 22, 2018 08:32:16

Brian Kilmeade just admits what the anti undocumented fervor is really all about:
BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): The other thing that I think is the biggest joke that we're not addressing, it wasn't President Trump's idea to have everyone leave from Central and South America in June and well up at the border. Somebody has to deal with this issue. It doesn't matter who the president is. If you don't like his policy, he's also open to your policy rather than just criticizing his. He's trying to send a message to the other countries. This is not the way you do it because this is a country that has rules and laws. The port of entry will be one thing. We can bolster those laws, but we just can't let everybody in that wants to be here.

And these are not -- like it or not, these aren't our kids. Show them compassion, but it's not like he is doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country and now people are saying that they're more important than people in our country who are paying taxes and who have needs as well.

AINELY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): Yeah, well he just wants to make sure we vet who's coming across the border, in case it's MS-13 or drugs.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Fri Jun 22, 2018 08:50:50

pacino wrote:they want to gut everything that helps people
just the stuff that mostly helps poor people!

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Jun 22, 2018 08:52:38

thephan wrote:BTW, over there in the corner there are schemes to combine Federal agencies like:

- combine education and Labor departments,
- USDA nutrition assistance programs(SNAP) to HHS (with a new name of the Department of Health and Public Welfare),
- USDA rural housing loan guarantee and rental assistance programs to HUD,
- remove the word "food" from the FDA so that the agency can "focus on drugs, devices, biologics, tobacco, dietary supplements, and cosmetics",
- food safety would be reorganized into a single agency within the USDA called the Federal Food Safety Agency',
- the US Postal Service would be restructured to return it to a sustainable business model or prepare it for future conversion from a government agency to a privately held corporation (that will keel over and die),
- the Federal Aviation Administration's air traffic control system would spin off to a nonprofit organization.


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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 09:00:14

that would explain why he is all of the sudden echo Trump nonsense. Its a trade.
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Fri Jun 22, 2018 09:01:59

lol so the nonF FDA can 'focus on drugs devices etc.' as if they aren't completely different centers dedicated to those areas. idiots.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Fri Jun 22, 2018 09:54:20

Pruitt has sent like 1 email to an external receipient over last 10 months.

I wonder where his emails are....
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 22, 2018 09:55:17

maybe he uses ravens
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:01:44

pacino wrote:Brian Kilmeade just admits what the anti undocumented fervor is really all about:
BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): The other thing that I think is the biggest joke that we're not addressing, it wasn't President Trump's idea to have everyone leave from Central and South America in June and well up at the border. Somebody has to deal with this issue. It doesn't matter who the president is. If you don't like his policy, he's also open to your policy rather than just criticizing his. He's trying to send a message to the other countries. This is not the way you do it because this is a country that has rules and laws. The port of entry will be one thing. We can bolster those laws, but we just can't let everybody in that wants to be here.

And these are not -- like it or not, these aren't our kids. Show them compassion, but it's not like he is doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country and now people are saying that they're more important than people in our country who are paying taxes and who have needs as well.

AINELY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): Yeah, well he just wants to make sure we vet who's coming across the border, in case it's MS-13 or drugs.

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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:03:54

Reading the tea leaves Scotusblog thinks Janus is Alito which, again, would suck. It really depends how narrow the ruling is...
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:04:54

Judge Stolen Seat ended up writing 5 opinions this term.

and yes, Alito would suck; it'll all go
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Re: From Summit to Plummet - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:05:41

Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:Brian Kilmeade just admits what the anti undocumented fervor is really all about:
BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): The other thing that I think is the biggest joke that we're not addressing, it wasn't President Trump's idea to have everyone leave from Central and South America in June and well up at the border. Somebody has to deal with this issue. It doesn't matter who the president is. If you don't like his policy, he's also open to your policy rather than just criticizing his. He's trying to send a message to the other countries. This is not the way you do it because this is a country that has rules and laws. The port of entry will be one thing. We can bolster those laws, but we just can't let everybody in that wants to be here.

And these are not -- like it or not, these aren't our kids. Show them compassion, but it's not like he is doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country and now people are saying that they're more important than people in our country who are paying taxes and who have needs as well.

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Perhaps Trump will make Kris Kobach his next Attorney General and they'll simply ignore those rulings
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