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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:42:59

Inflation is probably OK and healthy at this stage in the recovery/end of the recovery (i mean from what ive read. i am not an economist). It's a problem if wages don't keep pace though.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:44:15

It's a problem because stagnant wages are not keeping pace.

average hourly wages, adjusted for inflation, were unchanged in May from a year earlier, even as nominal pay accelerated to a 2.7 percent annual gain from 2.6 percent in April. For production and nonsupervisory workers, real average hourly earnings fell 0.1 percent from a year earlier.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -increases
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:45:00

youre telling me; aint had a raise in 2 years.

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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:33:40

not that its anywhere close but inflation did Carter in, along with hostages
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:38:17

it was weally the wabbit

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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:44:47

pacino wrote:fwiw, we had a great agreement with a country that was on the road to nuclearization and we and our allies negotiated a strong, smart agreement that derailed their program for at least ten years. Trump just went out of that one! perhaps this is why people don't believe the guy.


Blowing up the Iran deal was particularly bad because Iran is changing. They have large young generations who are going to be making the decisions someday soon and they are open to the West. Keeping the status quo for 10 years may have been enough to turn the tide and get rid of the old guard. If not 10, then 20. Now there's a greater risk of young Iranians coming to hate America and the West. All we had to do is wait it out and continue to show reason.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:10:05

thephan wrote:I am not sure where I saw it, but over the last few days there was an interview about DJT habit of tearing things up when he is done with them. They think it is his way of organizing. If it is ripped up, then it was dealt with. Easy enough. Unfortunately he is tearing things up that are supposed to be preserved as presidential record to the archive. He is making the conservators and librarians crazy.

I'm sure he, and the rest of the Trump Org, are very adept in the use of a paper shredder.

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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:14:41

Trump said he is impressed with KJU with the difficult way he came to power. Was that his father's death, or the subsequent murder of family members and advisors who served his father regime?
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:18:04

I know we often say that the GOP is craven and will not stand up to Trump, but eventually they will have to do something, right? I mean, this is way the Hell out of hand at this point.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:31:49

thephan wrote:I am not sure where I saw it, but over the last few days there was an interview about DJT habit of tearing things up when he is done with them. They think it is his way of organizing. If it is ripped up, then it was dealt with. Easy enough. Unfortunately he is tearing things up that are supposed to be preserved as presidential record to the archive. He is making the conservators and librarians crazy.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/ ... tem-635164
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:52:11

Monkeyboy wrote:I know we often say that the GOP is craven and will not stand up to Trump, but eventually they will have to do something, right? I mean, this is way the Hell out of hand at this point.


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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Tue Jun 12, 2018 13:16:57

TenuredVulture wrote:I'm no expert, but it seems to me giving up joint exercise with S. Korea is a pretty bad idea. Seems like this is not just to the benefit of N. Korea, but also China and Russia.


It boggles my mind that even with the narrative of the Iran deal being so one-sided out there, there is so little focus on what the US has to give up in order to be allowed to enter into some sort of treaty. I can understand the boon to many of the Korean people, who are keen for rapprochement, and certainly for China and Russia, and mostly North Korea. There's a stability argument to be made for Japan and other neighboring nations, but that of course is a difficult balance between threat reduction, emergence of of economic power in N.Korea and reduction of American influence. But this is all supposed to be about America First, and yet there's no accounting for what we have to give up, or slide Kim's way to entice him.

I'm all against controlling nuclear proliferation and threat reduction, but that seems to me the least important part of the equation. Great if you can take care of it, but the reason weapons haven't been used by anyone other than dear old USA remains the threat of retaliation, and that exists now in regard to N. Korea (and others such as Pakistan) and doesn't change with the signing of a paper.


My mind, of course, is not boggled that no discussion with N. Korea has anything to do with human rights, though maybe the complete absence of discussion of its absence is worth noting.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 13:23:44

thephan wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:I know we often say that the GOP is craven and will not stand up to Trump, but eventually they will have to do something, right? I mean, this is way the Hell out of hand at this point.


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I certainly hope so. Somewhere overlooking the cesspools would be nice, preferably somewhere where people are bound and gagged so I don't have to hear the screaming or the thrashing about.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 13:33:59

Am I the only one who found this week jarring? He's literally trying to tear down these alliances and disrupt our standing in the world. He's systematically lessening our ability to react quickly to global problems and at the same time China and Russia are being benefitted, often directly. We are so fucked if Congress doesn't act soon. He's realigning the US on the world stage. The world will swing hard towards authoritarianism, and with present day technologies, that will be a hard thing to change once it solidifies.

Am I overreacting here? Really, this seems pretty fucking bad.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 14:04:37

Monkeyboy wrote:Am I the only one who found this week jarring? He's literally trying to tear down these alliances and disrupt our standing in the world. He's systematically lessening our ability to react quickly to global problems and at the same time China and Russia are being benefitted, often directly. We are so #$!&@ if Congress doesn't act soon. He's realigning the US on the world stage. The world will swing hard towards authoritarianism, and with present day technologies, that will be a hard thing to change once it solidifies.

Am I overreacting here? Really, this seems pretty #$!&@ bad.


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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby Soren » Tue Jun 12, 2018 14:20:24

the video of 45 asking photographers to make him look thin. Woof.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 14:34:46

White House trade adviser Peter Navarro on Tuesday walked back his comments over the weekend saying that there was a "special place in hell" for Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, acknowledging that his language was "inappropriate."

"Let me correct a mistake I made," Navarro said at a conference in Washington hosted by The Wall Street Journal's CFO Network.

“My mission was to send a strong signal of strength,” he said. “The problem is that in conveying that message I used language that was inappropriate.”


In the spirit of good will, I too was rash and abrupt in my use of salty talk about @monkeyboy. I made a mistake.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jun 12, 2018 14:43:57

Republicans want to gerrymander the appealate courts in PA now; added an amendment to SB22 to create districts to get elected that would ensure 5 Republicans are on all the courts in the future.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Jun 12, 2018 14:58:20

Monkeyboy wrote:Am I the only one who found this week jarring? He's literally trying to tear down these alliances and disrupt our standing in the world. He's systematically lessening our ability to react quickly to global problems and at the same time China and Russia are being benefitted, often directly. We are so fucked if Congress doesn't act soon. He's realigning the US on the world stage. The world will swing hard towards authoritarianism, and with present day technologies, that will be a hard thing to change once it solidifies.

Am I overreacting here? Really, this seems pretty fucking bad.


We're looking to join the Axis of evil. Of course, the chorus of Republicans condemning this is overwhelming.
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Re: DSPA Blooms: Women Can Win Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 16:07:49

@IvankaTrump

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Not a Chinese Proverb, but someone ate takeout from Chalin's the other day.
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