No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 09:09:30

https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/clip ... 0327-promo

WJLA, ABC-7 in DC did run the Sinclair promo: https://www.mediamatters.org/embed/clip ... 0327-promo

WWHP, CBS-21, in in Harrisburg seems like the closed for most of you (full list): https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/ ... try/219779
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby pacino » Tue Apr 03, 2018 09:31:43

traderdave wrote:During an Easter event at the White House, CNN senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta shouted several questions at President Donald Trump while he was participating in an activity with children. Brad Parscale, Trump's 2020 campaign manager, accused Acosta of "breaking protocol" for shouting the questions. Acosta shot back; invoking the First Amendment and inviting Parscale to read it.

This, of course, is the same event at which Trump made a campaign speech touting the economy and military spending. You opened the door, Mr. President.

I remember when Obama didn't hold enough press conferences (he didn't hold enough). Trump has held one, I believe.

I'm simply spitting into the wind on this one, though. It's not going to happen.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:17:39

Donald Trump wrote:I am right about Amazon costing the United States Post Office massive amounts of money for being their Delivery Boy. Amazon should pay these costs (plus) and not have them bourne by the American Taxpayer. Many billions of dollars. P.O. leaders don’t have a clue (or do they?)!
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:41:17

slugsrbad wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:I am right about Amazon costing the United States Post Office massive amounts of money for being their Delivery Boy. Amazon should pay these costs (plus) and not have them bourne by the American Taxpayer. Many billions of dollars. P.O. leaders don’t have a clue (or do they?)!


and of course there is a quote for that...

"What I've done is I've used, brilliantly, the laws of the country. And not personally, just corporate. And if you look at people like myself that are at the highest levels of business, they use -- many of them have done it, many times," Trump told "ABC World News Tonight" host David Muir.


- June 2016

Amazon would be smart if it signed a sweetheart deal, except that the Post Office says that they make a profit from package shipment. Its probably all those damn postcards that Amazon sends that is soaking the government.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Phred » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:23:00

Uncle Milty wrote:Not sure I'd pick a fight with the richest man in the world if I were president.


That's why he won't cross Putin.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby traderdave » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:29:33

From the New Yorker:

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:33:54

Phred wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:Not sure I'd pick a fight with the richest man in the world if I were president.


That's why he won't cross Putin.


Bingo

And he is doing whatever he can to make Bezos much less wealthy.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:51:13

The big Caravan of People from Honduras, now coming across Mexico and heading to our “Weak Laws” Border, had better be stopped before it gets there,Cash cow NAFTA is in play, as is foreign aid to Honduras and the countries that allow this to happen. Congress MUST ACT NOW!”


Does Doc Johnson still think that he is stable?
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Soren » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:51:52

W was reprehensible if you disagree with neocons/care about minorities. Trump is the malignant tumor your detected past the time you could do anything about it. We're watching the end of an empire in real time.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:18:52

Van Der Zwaan becomes the 1st Mueller probe sentencing
He got 30 days for lying to the FBI
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:20:04

Manafort can no longer use the defense that Mueller is out of his purview with his indictment
Mueller files in court that he was given the go-ahead from assistant AG Rosenstein
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby swishnicholson » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:34:49

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Van Der Zwaan becomes the 1st Mueller probe sentencing
He got 30 days for lying to the FBI


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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 14:20:36

Trump asked for the Baltic leaders to call on a Baltic reporter with the tag 'real news, not fake news'. The idiot cannot help himself.

Also said that no one has been tougher on Russia because the US sent 60 Russians packing, and out so called allies only sent 4 a piece naming England, France, and Germany.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Apr 03, 2018 14:23:39

swishnicholson wrote:
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TenuredVulture wrote:Here's a take: Bush was worse than Trump. I know we have at least 3 more years of Trump, but consider--Iraq, Katrina, financial meltdown. It's going to be difficult for Trump to top that.
Maybe that's why the Republican party is so enthusiastic about Trump these days.

Gosh darn he's gonna try.

As someone who laments the downfall of certain institutional norms, I think you'd be one of the last people to make this argument. Trump has furthered a lot of pre-existing attitudes in politics and pop culture -- particularly among GOP voters/politicians, but not limited to it... Distrust of large institutions, a confusion of fact with fiction, the degraded status of expertise, desire for confirmatory evidence from like-minded people, self segregated cloistering of micro-communities, dissatisfaction with the re-distributive effects of globalization and technology, unwillingness to study history for lessons...

These issues transcend politics. I can't talk to my dad about sports in the same way that I used to be able. Part of it is because I've changed. I view sports from a different perspective than he does. I read fangraphs, and he listens to sports radio. But it's more than that. I believe there is something else that drives some of the divides, and it's not political, in the sense of right/left. It's how we make decisions, and evaluate decisions. And I suspect that parts of our culture (twitter, talk radio, like-minded communities, information overload, inability to assess bias very well) creates a society that struggles to communicate effectively with people they disagree with. Even places like this forum, which is more polite and like-minded than most places, still has people trolling quite regularly. Hey, 10 years I loved the one-liners, too. But there's something about a growing lack of empathy that is a problem, and it's not going away.

To tie it back to TV's original comment, sure, Bush may have done some things causing direct harm (Iraq), and indirectly handled other bad situations poorly and made them worse (Katrina), but I don't think his presidency created a fundamental or permanent shift in national politics. Obama had more of an impact just on the discussion of what the government can do with respect to healthcare. Even if a Democrat wins in 2020, the damage of the Trump Presidency will last for a long time.


I don't disagree with anything werthless says, but tv, is right. The Iraq death and destruction alone, and the way it was arrived at, far outweigh anything the Donald has managed to this point. Though I suppose the abrogation of any responsibility in Syria and the Ukraine may eventually even the score a little bit. If it ever gets noticed, that is.

We'll see how Trump handles North Korea going forward. :/

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 14:32:40

He wants to send troops to the southern border? What? Does the Joint Chief know? The rest of the Pentagon? Does he understand anything about that global messaging? What the rules of engagement are? What the outcome can be? Does he understand that the caravan is essentially a peaceful protest? There is no chance that he knows what the Posse Comitatus Act is. Aaaaargh.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Apr 03, 2018 14:38:30

thephan wrote:He wants to send troops to the southern border? What? Does the Joint Chief know? The rest of the Pentagon? Does he understand anything about that global messaging? What the rules of engagement are? What the outcome can be? Does he understand that the caravan is essentially a peaceful protest? There is no chance that he knows what the Posse Comitatus Act is. Aaaaargh.


It's probably the National Guard, which is fine, but he didn't really think any of it through and is wrong if he thinks it is historic.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 15:22:07

Alex Jones devotee Mike Adams, the founder the website Natural News which exists to challenge widely accepted scientific theories, has branched out to launch Hoggwatch.com, a site devoted to exposing 18-year-old Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Student,David Hogg as a paid actor who wants to destroy the "American ideology".

FFS
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 15:23:56

The EPA has exempted one of the nation’s largest oil refining companies, Andeavor, from complying with U.S. biofuels regulations under a hardship waiver.

In other EPA news, Pruitt is fighting back the best way he can, but throwing shade on Obama like the boss.

“The Obama Administration's determination was wrong,” said EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. “Obama’s EPA cut the Midterm Evaluation process short with politically charged expediency, made assumptions about the standards that didn’t comport with reality, and set the standards too high.”


Fact is that the 12 January 2017 release of the Midterm Evaluation (MTE) process for the greenhouse gas (GHG) brought unnecessary attention to something that deserved deeper roots, and a more solid foundation. I get that time was up, but...
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 18:15:28

some of the agency's problems might lie with the president. The top planning and oversight board at the Postal Service has been unable to meet and consider matters such as the agency's long-term relationship with Amazon, because the president has failed to appoint any of the nine governors to the 11-member Board of Governors of the U.S. Postal Service.

In October, Trump nominated three candidates who still await Senate confirmation. The board needs at least four new members to have a quorum for meetings

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Wed Apr 04, 2018 07:19:35

I love the word play with Trump not being a Target. It's like the spider saying to the fly I come on in and have a seat will have some tea. So although this is great for his ego, you have to think that the special counsel is smarter than that.

I think the real message is that this is the reason that John Dowd steps down. Trump thinks he can go tell the special counsel his version of the truth, and clear his name, and Dowd recognizes That that would be a horrible idea.

I hope the president's pride gets in his own way, sooner than later. Imagine if we could get on to the business of running a nation. Maybe even vaguely competently running a nation.
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