No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 07:20:56

DACAs Dead!

Dems want no borders!

Trump just tweeted it in celebration of Easter Monday. It's the Dems fault. There might be some President style crazy associating this with 'the army of immigrants' marching though Mexico to the US bringing crime, drugs, and hate over our porous borded (leaving one to ask if his administration is either winning on the border or a sad joke) with DACA, then again there is that "army" of brown people. A violent, marauding immigrants who will somehow march freely into the USA.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 07:28:20

Hannity, Judge Jeanie, and the My Pillow guy were Trumps guests in Florida. Now its crazy time. I guess that is a shitty endorsement of My Pillow because he is clearly not getting good sleep.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 07:46:04

Sinclair's demands on its stations are scary. direct feed of distrust into local markets. Maybe clips of all the disaffected local anchors reading the same script would show the propaganda nature of things. It would need to come with some education of what propaganda is.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 08:15:11

I wish that the fake news media could get together on the message our winning the trade war. Are the Chinese counter tariffs going to punch back $3 or 6B? Such losers.

PS - Sorry farmers, at least you still have your own dating site.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby pacino » Mon Apr 02, 2018 08:32:11

thephan wrote:Sinclair's demands on its stations are scary. direct feed of distrust into local markets. Maybe clips of all the disaffected local anchors reading the same script would show the propaganda nature of things. It would need to come with some education of what propaganda is.

this is bad stuff
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 09:31:37

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2 ... ver/218573

If the SBC/Tribune tie up is approved, there is plenty of propaganda to be pressed into the local market. What kind of scrutiny is this actually getting?
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Slowhand » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:51:02

I legit LOL'd when I turned on the tube and saw this.

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:05:02

Is that Jeff Sessions?
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby pacino » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:23:02

that rabbit is wearing egg dippers for glasses
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby traderdave » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:34:56

Slowhand wrote:I legit LOL'd when I turned on the tube and saw this.

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I cannot be the only one who wishes that were a picture of POTUS with Donald and Melania Trump.

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:03:17

That's a good laugh TD. Sadly, a guy in a bunny suit might be more effective.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Rockinghorse » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:20:40

thephan wrote:Sinclair's demands on its stations are scary. direct feed of distrust into local markets. Maybe clips of all the disaffected local anchors reading the same script would show the propaganda nature of things. It would need to come with some education of what propaganda is.


Interesting the first link is from an independent station in Florida. You would think that competition being so fierce in local markets, the non-Sinclair stations would make a big deal out of this to sway viewers. But I have a feeling that won't happen, since those GMs are just as scared of their owners as their Sinclair counterparts.

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:35:43

I had hoped to find a link from an SBC station. I did purposely avoid the likes of CNN. When I have a little more time I want to see what WJLA/ABC, a DC local station, said. If they were given a reprieve or if they too were sacrificed. Sometimes local DC talent shows up on a national broadcast, which I have noticed when I am out of town (like wise, especially on NBC, you will have national talent turn up on the local broadcast), however rolling with the script might make them persona non grata on the pro team.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby pacino » Mon Apr 02, 2018 13:04:35

Rockinghorse wrote:
thephan wrote:Sinclair's demands on its stations are scary. direct feed of distrust into local markets. Maybe clips of all the disaffected local anchors reading the same script would show the propaganda nature of things. It would need to come with some education of what propaganda is.


Interesting the first link is from an independent station in Florida. You would think that competition being so fierce in local markets, the non-Sinclair stations would make a big deal out of this to sway viewers. But I have a feeling that won't happen, since those GMs are just as scared of their owners as their Sinclair counterparts.

don't want to annoy a potential employer
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 13:14:36

Look, there is a way to make it worse.

President Donald Trump lauded Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. as “far superior” to CNN or NBC Monday after the broadcaster that’s seeking federal approval to buy Tribune Media Co. drew criticism for having its on-air personalities read scripted statements about “false news” by other media outlets.

“So funny to watch Fake News Networks, among the most dishonest groups of people I have ever dealt with, criticize Sinclair Broadcasting for being biased,” Trump said in a tweet. “Sinclair is far superior to CNN and even more Fake NBC, which is a total joke.”
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby traderdave » Mon Apr 02, 2018 13:33:13

Gee, I wonder if that merger will go through. Furthermore, I wonder if Sinclair will have to divest anything at all to win the approval.

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby thephan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 13:52:03

I would love to have someone get a question in of what his favorite sinclair show is. you know he has no idea what SBC is, except that it likes him. He might be surprised that SBC owns 22 NBC stations.

To correct myself earlier, I did not recognize that the tight NBC tie up with WRC is because NBC is the owner/operator. Seems that is how most major NBC cities are (NY, BOS, LA, CHI, etc.). Some are legacy being owned from the start (40's), but also an uptick since the 90's for major population areas if they became available it would seem..
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Mon Apr 02, 2018 16:08:57

Here's a take: Bush was worse than Trump. I know we have at least 3 more years of Trump, but consider--Iraq, Katrina, financial meltdown. It's going to be difficult for Trump to top that.
Maybe that's why the Republican party is so enthusiastic about Trump these days. All he's got on his record is Puerto Rico, and the pro-Trump media are keeping quiet about that.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby Werthless » Mon Apr 02, 2018 16:39:32

TenuredVulture wrote:Here's a take: Bush was worse than Trump. I know we have at least 3 more years of Trump, but consider--Iraq, Katrina, financial meltdown. It's going to be difficult for Trump to top that.
Maybe that's why the Republican party is so enthusiastic about Trump these days.

Gosh darn he's gonna try.

As someone who laments the downfall of certain institutional norms, I think you'd be one of the last people to make this argument. Trump has furthered a lot of pre-existing attitudes in politics and pop culture -- particularly among GOP voters/politicians, but not limited to it... Distrust of large institutions, a confusion of fact with fiction, the degraded status of expertise, desire for confirmatory evidence from like-minded people, self segregated cloistering of micro-communities, dissatisfaction with the re-distributive effects of globalization and technology, unwillingness to study history for lessons...

These issues transcend politics. I can't talk to my dad about sports in the same way that I used to be able. Part of it is because I've changed. I view sports from a different perspective than he does. I read fangraphs, and he listens to sports radio. But it's more than that. I believe there is something else that drives some of the divides, and it's not political, in the sense of right/left. It's how we make decisions, and evaluate decisions. And I suspect that parts of our culture (twitter, talk radio, like-minded communities, information overload, inability to assess bias very well) creates a society that struggles to communicate effectively with people they disagree with. Even places like this forum, which is more polite and like-minded than most places, still has people trolling quite regularly. Hey, 10 years I loved the one-liners, too. But there's something about a growing lack of empathy that is a problem, and it's not going away.

To tie it back to TV's original comment, sure, Bush may have done some things causing direct harm (Iraq), and indirectly handled other bad situations poorly and made them worse (Katrina), but I don't think his presidency created a fundamental or permanent shift in national politics. Obama had more of an impact just on the discussion of what the government can do with respect to healthcare. Even if a Democrat wins in 2020, the damage of the Trump Presidency will last for a long time.

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Unread postby traderdave » Mon Apr 02, 2018 16:39:36

All good, nothing to see here:

An agency ethics official at the Environmental Protection Agency says Administrator Scott Pruitt’s lease of a Capitol Hill condo tied to a prominent fossil-fuels lobbyist didn’t violate federal ethics rules. A memo signed by Kevin Minoli contends that Pruitt’s $50-a-night rental payments constitute a fair market rate. The memo was dated March 30, the day after ABC News first reported Pruitt lived last year in condo co-owned by the wife of Steven Hart, a registered lobbyist whose firm pushed EPA to relax pollution regulations. Pruitt’s college-aged daughter stayed in the second bedroom while interning at the White House last summer. Minoli’s memo says the $50-a-night rate would total $1,500 for 30 nights a month, which he deemed to be a fair price.

But current rental listings for two-bedroom apartments in the neighborhood show they typically go for far more than what Pruitt paid. A two bedroom townhome on the same block as the one leased by Pruitt was advertised for rent on Monday at $3,750 a month. Another two-bedroom unit on the next block was advertised as available for $4,740 a month.


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