Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:49:14

TenuredVulture wrote:
pacino wrote:
Soren wrote:the most frustrating part of working ~18 hours yesterday was not having time to go and vote.

wow, lazy :spam:


voting should be on Saturday and have a mail in option


I thought early voting was pretty common in blue states. We have it in Arkansas, and it does include a Saturday option. It's not ideal, since in order to vote early you have to go to the county courthouse. But in rural areas, that means about half the electorate lives withing a few minutes of the polling place. Outlying areas would normally be about 20-30 minutes away, though many people who live in outlying areas work in town.

NY/NJ/PA/DE don't allow early voting

Maryland does
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:49:57

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JUburton wrote:The two minority candidates targeted in the Make Edison Great Again mailer ("Deport!") were elected to the school board.


Was this Edison NJ? I mean, given its demographics, this seems like a pretty terrible strategy.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:57:46

The Base

“Everybody I talk to,” he said, “realizes it’s not Trump who’s dragging his feet. Trump’s probably the most diligent, hardest-working president we’ve ever had in our lifetimes. It’s not like he sleeps in till noon and goes golfing every weekend, like the last president did.”

I stopped him, informing him that, yes, Barack Obama liked to golf, but Trump in fact does golf a lot, too—more, in fact.

Del Signore was surprised to hear this.

“Does he?” he said.

“Yes,” I said.

He did not linger on this topic, smiling and changing the subject with a quip. “If I was married to his wife,” Del Signore said, “I don’t think I’d go anywhere.”

He added: “Some of these things are like that thing he said to Billy, Billy Bob, Billy Bud”—searching, unsuccessfully, for the name Billy Bush—“on the bus, that comment he made.” Del Signore shrugged. “He’s a human male. I’m glad he wasn’t saying, ‘Hey, I like little boys.’ You know? So he’s not perfect.”

More than anything, what seemed to upset the people I spoke with was the National Football League players who have knelt during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial inequality.

“As far as I’m concerned,” Frear told me, “if I was the boss of these teams, I would tell ‘em, ‘You get your asses out there and you play, or you’re not here anymore.’ They’re paying their salaries, for God’s sake.”

“Shame on them,” Del Signore said over his alfredo. “These clowns are out there, making millions of dollars a year, and they’re using some stupid excuse that they want equality—so I’ll kneel against the flag and the national anthem?”

“You’re not a fan of equality?” I asked.

“For people who deserve it and earn it,” he said. “All my ancestors, Italian, 100-percent Italian, the Irish, Germans, Polish, whatever—they all came over here, settled in places like this, they worked hard and they earned the respect. They earned the success that they got. Some people don’t want to do that. They just want it handed to them.”

“Like NFL players?” I said.

“Well,” Del Signore responded, “I hate to say what the majority of them are …” He stopped himself short of what I thought he was about to say.

Schilling and her husband, however, did not restrain themselves.

“The thing that irritates me to no end is this NFL shit,” Schilling told me in her living room. “I’m about ready to go over the top with this shit. We do not watch no NFL now.” They’re Dallas Cowboys fans. “We banned ‘em. We don’t watch it.”

Schilling looked at her husband, Dave McCabe, who’s 67 and a retired high school basketball coach. She nodded at me. “Tell him,” she said to McCabe, “what you said the NFL is …”

McCabe looked momentarily wary. He laughed a little. “I don’t remember saying that,” he said unconvincingly.

Schilling was having none of it. “You’re the one that told me, liar,” she said.

She looked at me.

The NFL?

“Niggers for life,” Schilling said.

“For life,” McCabe added.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:58:57

pacino wrote:Cult 45
—Pam Schilling is the reason Donald Trump is the president.

THANKS A LOT PAM

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:32:40

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:I sure hope the trend of Dem voters not coming out for non-presidential elections has turned, good sign yesterday

Back to like 2006. It is almost like it's easier to do well in off-years when the unpopular president is in the other party rather than your own party.

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:35:03

an important part of that piece I posted, some people will and have dropped off because they should eventually see through all that stuff. Democrats have to actually be there with a plan to step in:

Polacek, a lifelong Johnstown resident and one of the city’s few remaining business titans, was a staunch supporter of Trump. He has been largely pleased with his performance as president so far, he said, but Polacek does wish Trump would try to be more bipartisan and more deliberative—and also that he and his administration would pay as much attention to Johnstown now as he did during the campaign.
“We’ve been trying to reach out to him to say, ‘Hey, remember us? We need help here,’” he told me. “That’s my only frustration. I’d just like to tell Trump, ‘Hello? We’re still here. We’re ready for you.’”

For three decades, Johnstown had a powerful friend on Capitol Hill in Rep. Jack Murtha, who steered millions in pork-barrel money to his hometown from his seat on the House Appropriations Committee. But Murtha died in 2010, and earmarks have been banned. Now, the seat is held by a Republican backbencher named Keith Rothfus. “We have not had an influx of any federal money that has assisted us since January,” Liston said. Even just a part of the $1-trillion infrastructure package that Trump once talked about would help considerably, he added.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:39:05

Yikes. There are fine people on both side? Maybe not so much.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:39:27

“I don’t give the guy that much credit,” Daloni said, referring to the president, “but man—he knows what buttons to push, and he’s pushing ‘em.”
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:48:58

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:54:36

pacino wrote:an important part of that piece I posted, some people will and have dropped off because they should eventually see through all that stuff. Democrats have to actually be there with a plan to step in:

Polacek, a lifelong Johnstown resident and one of the city’s few remaining business titans, was a staunch supporter of Trump. He has been largely pleased with his performance as president so far, he said, but Polacek does wish Trump would try to be more bipartisan and more deliberative—and also that he and his administration would pay as much attention to Johnstown now as he did during the campaign.
“We’ve been trying to reach out to him to say, ‘Hey, remember us? We need help here,’” he told me. “That’s my only frustration. I’d just like to tell Trump, ‘Hello? We’re still here. We’re ready for you.’”

For three decades, Johnstown had a powerful friend on Capitol Hill in Rep. Jack Murtha, who steered millions in pork-barrel money to his hometown from his seat on the House Appropriations Committee. But Murtha died in 2010, and earmarks have been banned. Now, the seat is held by a Republican backbencher named Keith Rothfus. “We have not had an influx of any federal money that has assisted us since January,” Liston said. Even just a part of the $1-trillion infrastructure package that Trump once talked about would help considerably, he added.


Same guy...

At Johnstown’s JWF Industries, a 450-employee manufacturing company, business hasn’t gone up this year, owner Bill Polacek told me, but he’s expecting a 30-percent jump next year. He chalks that up to Trump and his “pro-business” “mood.”


Its good to believe, but you need to have a little bit of reality. 30% growth because is just not happening. Back in the day corrupt Murtha put people on a path to destruction. It is actually distressing to see that people have no idea how Cpt. Jack twisted the system to pump into the town he loved, at all cost he did this, but that free money life is far in the past.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:59:08

earmarks were 1% of the federal budget; other congresspeople did far worse in trying to gut their social security, medicare and Medicaid. they weren't a great part of the system but they weren't exactly the greatest trick the devil ever pulled.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:09:29

I think he's commenting more on the town that Murtha was helping, than earmarks as a general source for large waste.

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Grotewold » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:11:41

Does yesterday support the notion of last year being more about Hillary than Trump?

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:12:34

But Johnstown was a disproportionate beneficiary. He gets marks for trying to make his hometown more then a footnote in history based on tragedy.

WSJ - Oct 30, 2007 - JOHNSTOWN, Pa. ... Mr. Murtha has steered at least $600 million in earmarks to his


Murthaville

Alaska and Montana have had some issues with earmarking, but nothing like Murtha's laser focus.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:28:27

Grotewold wrote:Does yesterday support the notion of last year being more about Hillary than Trump?

I don't know, we just had a two-term Democratic president; it's pretty hard to follow that up with another term by the same party. I imagine 'Bernie could've won', but we'll never know and it would've been razor-thin regardless, IMO.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Wed Nov 08, 2017 13:32:08

Bill McNeal wrote:Pa. ballot question on property taxes passed.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/penns ... 71107.html

This is not a good thing.


We will see - I'm optimistic (at least on how it will affect me personally)
I would rather see you lose than win myself

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