Refugees are allowed back in the US again, because duh. There will be 'additional checks' on 11 countries.

CalvinBall wrote:
Just so wild, to me, that Corker pulled out his own phone, stewed for a bit, wrote that tweet, asked a friend is he should tweet it without consulting his staff, and then just tweeted it. There was no grand plan. He knew speaking out would be a big deal, but he just kind of decided to do it there, on his own, in the back of some church while waiting to talk to a group of people.

sadly, the process that POTUS goes through to tweet is nowhere near to being vetted as that

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:
Just so wild, to me, that Corker pulled out his own phone, stewed for a bit, wrote that tweet, asked a friend is he should tweet it without consulting his staff, and then just tweeted it. There was no grand plan. He knew speaking out would be a big deal, but he just kind of decided to do it there, on his own, in the back of some church while waiting to talk to a group of people.

sadly, the process that POTUS goes through to tweet is nowhere near to being vetted as that

This is true.

Just fascinating to know how the wheels turned on basically what was the story yesterday. At least to me it is.

thephan wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:And the Democrats have lied about it up to and including today

It was literally in the original report that it was democratic-aligned funding . Republican primary challenger also did.

Who cares

Yeah I don't understand why this is more than a blip. "Candidate pays for opposite research." Unless they're telling the guy to lie, who cares.

Here is the spin... Pantsuit Boogieman Hillary Clinton paid foreign government, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS, to debase the President. The conspiracy is laid bare, just open your eyes.

In other news, the Illuminati are losing their grip because their satanist leader could not land the presidency even after drinking full babies.

No, I get the spin. It's a throwback to Fox News/Drudge coverage from the Obama era.

But it's a non-story until/unless something else comes out.

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:But lying is only bad when Republicans do it, I forgot

Yeh, because someone said that.

Hack.

I don't really care who funded it, though it sounds like both parties did. The question is if it is true or not and it certainly appears that most or all of it is. Your party is being run by a bunch of traitors, so hop down off your high horse.

It seems like the thread, including your post, has reached a consensus that lying does not matter when Democrats do it. But I'm the hack, so it's all good.

it matters, at least to me. but the hypocrisy of the right-wing media (and most "leadership", for that matter) is laughable. the orange one lies like it's his job and all they talk about now is this thing.

Lying is bad, and Team Hillary will end up looking dumber then ever because of this. Who hired Fusion GPS first? That is a mystery. Ted Cruz? Why not. That the Dems and the campaign payed dumb for so long is just stupid. At zero day the messaging should have been, what, something like, 'Of course we (whoever that we is) paid for opposition research, including information started by a GOP challenger, then abandoned. Frankly it was a pretty good deal to have access into this type of information. Ultimately it was not as useful as it might seem as we lost the election. It should be well understood that Opposition Research is not new, and every campaign pays firms for it, including the president's.' But did that happen? No, of course not because Hillary and Friends are lousy.

Now if Muller verifies say 60% of this salacious information, then what? The report, the actions of Trump staff/family, etc. are all in play, and are all of great concern.

most people assume it originated from Jeb! but there's no solid reporting on that as of yet

(a lot of the dossier has been corroborated too just not the most salacious portions)

There is some guestimation on the state tax deduction that shows big state citizens get crushed. Its bigger then just SALT, a few thousand to several thousands of dollars in addition.

pacino wrote:most people assume it originated from Jeb! but there's no solid reporting on that as of yet

I know, but I want i to be Ted.

thephan wrote:

pacino wrote:most people assume it originated from Jeb! but there's no solid reporting on that as of yet

I know, but I want i to be Ted.

Guardian article from May had it as a Jeb supporter

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:And the Democrats have lied about it up to and including today

It was literally in the original report that it was democratic-aligned funding . Republican primary challenger also did.

Who cares

Yeah I don't understand why this is more than a blip. "Candidate pays for opposite research." Unless they're telling the guy to lie, who cares.

It's important because we've been hearing that Trump Jr. was wrong to be excited to learn about acquiring opposition research on Clinton ("If it's what you say, I love it."). With this opposition research on Trump being funded by Clinton camp, now it's a matter of degree and nuance that 80% of Americans are not going to care about.

Werthless wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:And the Democrats have lied about it up to and including today

It was literally in the original report that it was democratic-aligned funding . Republican primary challenger also did.

Who cares

Yeah I don't understand why this is more than a blip. "Candidate pays for opposite research." Unless they're telling the guy to lie, who cares.

It's important because we've been hearing that Trump Jr. was wrong to be excited to learn about acquiring opposition research on Clinton ("If it's what you say, I love it."). With this opposition research on Trump being funded by Clinton camp, now it's a matter of degree and nuance that 80% of Americans are not going to care about.

well, that's because he said he wasn't part of the campaign and isn't in politics; it was also an indication that DJT and company, once again, revealed they had more contact with important Russian people (that they thought were repping the government) than they let on and how he lied about the reason for the meeting itself.

All this shows of Clinton is: they do opposition research and lied about doing it. it really doesn't say anything about the Trumps or make them look better; this a normal part of campaigning.

people I follow on twitter are now using this to show how bad the clintons are...like, it's opposition research! wtf world am i living in. dude was a retired MI6 officer, not Hitler come back to life

as far as I remember Clinton didn't even use anything from the Dossier during the campaign

apparently it further shows the corruption of the dnc and the clintons

Another curiosity, how often has the VP been used to tie break? Talk about unprecedented, Pence is closing in on Senate votes as VP as he did when in congress.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided. As of July 25, 2017, the tie-breaking vote (or casting vote) has been made 259 times by 36 different Vice Presidents, according to the U.S. Senate.

Biden voted 0 times. I think Pence is up to 6 times now, which puts him in the Top 5.

Well, DJT chanted LaDavid several times, said he said his name on the call to the widow, called it an "ALL TIME GREAT MEMORY". Not his memory, but the call. WTF is wrong with this guy?

Also said he won by a land slide, said he is very smart, the press villianizes him, put Hilliray out there as the progenitor even though he said the GOP might have started it and he thinks he knows who it is, and that he went to an Ivy League school.

thephan wrote:Well, DJT chanted LaDavid several times, said he said his name on the call to the widow, called it an "ALL TIME GREAT MEMORY". Not his memory, but the call. WTF is wrong with this guy?

he was saying that he (Donald Trump) has one of the "great memories of all-time." Not that the call was one of his greatest memories.

Because he can't not stroke himself at every opportunity. he's an unwell human being, i can't believe he is the actual President