Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 25, 2017 00:25:06

jerseyhoya wrote:But lying is only bad when Republicans do it, I forgot



your party nominated, strove to elect , and still fronts for the indisputably worst president in American history, and as yet is doing nothing to remove him from office. Stay focused.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Wed Oct 25, 2017 00:54:57

This is a good example of why Politifact is garbage and why I'm dumb as well when I cite it

More to the story on poll Donald Trump tweeted about media trust - Trump tweeted: 46% OF PEOPLE BELIEVE MAJOR NATIONAL NEWS ORGS FABRICATE STORIES ABOUT ME.

A legit poll showed 46% of people believe major national news organizations fabricate stories about him. They said his claim was half true.

He said a true thing! Cited a legit poll! People are arguably wrong for believing this, but I dunno where Politifact gets off crushing Trump on it. They ding Morning Consult for being an online poll, when online polls done the right way can be just as good as phone polls and there's nothing to suggest Morning Consult isn't a methodologically sound group. And if anything making a story about Trump saying something true being rated only half true seems to go a long way to validate the 46%.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Oct 25, 2017 01:54:09

dear Breitbart assholes: you are much, much stupider than even I ever imagined you to be, and I hope you all die childless and alone clutching your pillowcases with eyeholes cut in them
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby TomatoPie » Wed Oct 25, 2017 06:58:12

JUburton wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Apparently Clinton campaign lawyer Marc Elias helped facilitate and fund the Trump/Russia dossier. Great.
Funding oppo is pretty standard though, isn't it? It's unknown what the campaign knew when and important to note that they didn't actually use any of it.

It's going to look terrible though.


It's noise - and irrelevant who paid for it. The bigger story -when it comes out - is that GHWB was paying for it before Jeb dropped out. But even that is noise.

It will provide some useful distraction for Trumpists but I don't think it will delay the inevitable. Corky 'n' Flake ™ are good and I hope it's the start of a trend, but it seems to all come down to Mueller's report.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 07:02:12

jerseyhoya wrote:But lying is only bad when Republicans do it, I forgot



Yeh, because someone said that.

Hack.

I don't really care who funded it, though it sounds like both parties did. The question is if it is true or not and it certainly appears that most or all of it is. Your party is being run by a bunch of traitors, so hop down off your high horse.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby The Savior » Wed Oct 25, 2017 07:29:10

Not agile enough to get on top of a high horse
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Gimpy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 07:50:01

jerseyhoya wrote:This is a good example of why Politifact is garbage and why I'm dumb as well when I cite it

More to the story on poll Donald Trump tweeted about media trust - Trump tweeted: 46% OF PEOPLE BELIEVE MAJOR NATIONAL NEWS ORGS FABRICATE STORIES ABOUT ME.

A legit poll showed 46% of people believe major national news organizations fabricate stories about him. They said his claim was half true.

He said a true thing! Cited a legit poll! People are arguably wrong for believing this, but I dunno where Politifact gets off crushing Trump on it. They ding Morning Consult for being an online poll, when online polls done the right way can be just as good as phone polls and there's nothing to suggest Morning Consult isn't a methodologically sound group. And if anything making a story about Trump saying something true being rated only half true seems to go a long way to validate the 46%.


Yea, politifact does way too much editorializing and interpreting

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 25, 2017 07:58:36

Gimpy wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:This is a good example of why Politifact is garbage and why I'm dumb as well when I cite it

More to the story on poll Donald Trump tweeted about media trust - Trump tweeted: 46% OF PEOPLE BELIEVE MAJOR NATIONAL NEWS ORGS FABRICATE STORIES ABOUT ME.

A legit poll showed 46% of people believe major national news organizations fabricate stories about him. They said his claim was half true.

He said a true thing! Cited a legit poll! People are arguably wrong for believing this, but I dunno where Politifact gets off crushing Trump on it. They ding Morning Consult for being an online poll, when online polls done the right way can be just as good as phone polls and there's nothing to suggest Morning Consult isn't a methodologically sound group. And if anything making a story about Trump saying something true being rated only half true seems to go a long way to validate the 46%.


Yea, politifact does way too much editorializing and interpreting

Rachel Maddow has been hating on Politifact for years now
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 08:01:12

Don't get too frothy about Flake. I've heard him twice this morning, and both times he push back hard on the idea that there is any likelihood of any 25th Amendment anything.

Trumpster fire hits the twitter button this morning to call out Flake and Corker as sad losers who were going to lose their primaries. Assures us that any applause is in support of him, and was a show of unity.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 08:02:32

A serious question, has there ever been another time when the leader of a party has gone after its incumbent members?
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Oct 25, 2017 08:32:03

CalvinBall wrote:Have a great story about that corker tweet once I can have some time to type it.


Here!

So, yesterday morning, Trump tweeted a lot about Sen. Corker. The first tweet about Corker came around 8:00 am. Around the same time, Corker was standing in the back of the church that myself and 200+ advocates from across the country were sitting in waiting to hear from him. Corker is made aware of the fact that Trump is tweeting about him. Corker is standing with some International Justice Mission staff and his own communications director. He decides to compose a tweet of his own.

He then asks Tim, one of the IJM staffers who he is incredibly close with, "What do you think about this one?" as he hands Tim the phone to read the tweet he has not sent yet. Tim goes, "Meh, it is alright." "Should I send it?" Corker asks. Tim tells him, "Uhh, yeah sure."

Corker's comm. director steps in and says, "No. Do not send that. We need to meet about this and talk about what we want to do and how we should respond."

After some back and forth, with the IJM staffers looking on, Corker just goes, "No, I am going to tweet it." So he does. And that is what gave us:

Senator Bob Corker‏Verified account @SenBobCorker 24h24 hours ago
Same untruths from an utterly untruthful president. #AlertTheDaycareStaff


He then is introduced to us. Gives us some encouragement and thanks. And then he leaves.

Once he leaves he heads to his office building where the CNN interview happened.

Just so wild, to me, that Corker pulled out his own phone, stewed for a bit, wrote that tweet, asked a friend is he should tweet it without consulting his staff, and then just tweeted it. There was no grand plan. He knew speaking out would be a big deal, but he just kind of decided to do it there, on his own, in the back of some church while waiting to talk to a group of people.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 09:06:14

thephan wrote:
Trumpster fire hits the twitter button this morning to call out Flake and Corker as sad losers who were going to lose their primaries. Assures us that any applause is in support of him, and was a show of unity.



Dictator wannabe. Really, it's like we're in some banana republic. Up is down, left is right. This precedes Trump in the GOP, but he's taken it to a whole other level.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Woody » Wed Oct 25, 2017 09:18:00

I wonder if Cohen is how the Trump Org first learned to launder money: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politic ... 01541.html
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Woody » Wed Oct 25, 2017 09:21:47

Also just learned that Cohen's wife is from the Ukraine. As a standalone fact, that means absolutely nothing. But it's pretty wild how many people that support Trump or that Trump is in business with are from that part of the world, married to someone from that part of the world, have business dealings there, or are in overwhelming debt to an oligarch. All coincidences, I'm sure
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 25, 2017 09:48:02

could be he also liked her or he has a type


there is a weird strain of people in the 'white superiority' arena that think that eastern european genes is the apex of greatness that a human can achieve; with a lot of the actual white supremacist online types they seek out tying themselves to what they see as the superior race
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:16:08

Path to citizenship, marry a US citizen.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:20:08

pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:And the Democrats have lied about it up to and including today

It was literally in the original report that it was democratic-aligned funding . Republican primary challenger also did.

Who cares

Yeah I don't understand why this is more than a blip. "Candidate pays for opposite research." Unless they're telling the guy to lie, who cares.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:23:32

Gimpy wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:This is a good example of why Politifact is garbage and why I'm dumb as well when I cite it

More to the story on poll Donald Trump tweeted about media trust - Trump tweeted: 46% OF PEOPLE BELIEVE MAJOR NATIONAL NEWS ORGS FABRICATE STORIES ABOUT ME.

A legit poll showed 46% of people believe major national news organizations fabricate stories about him. They said his claim was half true.

He said a true thing! Cited a legit poll! People are arguably wrong for believing this, but I dunno where Politifact gets off crushing Trump on it. They ding Morning Consult for being an online poll, when online polls done the right way can be just as good as phone polls and there's nothing to suggest Morning Consult isn't a methodologically sound group. And if anything making a story about Trump saying something true being rated only half true seems to go a long way to validate the 46%.


Yea, politifact does way too much editorializing and interpreting


Honestly I think the biggest problem with Politifact is that they analyze too many inconsequential statements.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:23:44

Senator Steve Daine disagrees with Flake, sides with Trump. The people have spoken and this is exactly what they want. The government is very effective.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:27:11

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
pacino wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:And the Democrats have lied about it up to and including today

It was literally in the original report that it was democratic-aligned funding . Republican primary challenger also did.

Who cares

Yeah I don't understand why this is more than a blip. "Candidate pays for opposite research." Unless they're telling the guy to lie, who cares.


Here is the spin... Pantsuit Boogieman Hillary Clinton paid foreign government, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS, to debase the President. The conspiracy is laid bare, just open your eyes.

In other news, the Illuminati are losing their grip because their satanist leader could not land the presidency even after drinking full babies.
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