Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 25, 2017 13:44:56

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Trump says he did not authorize the mission in Niger that resulted in loss of 4 soldiers. generals did

BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR STRATEGY TO FOREIGN INTERVENTION, DONALD!!!!!
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Oct 25, 2017 13:45:59

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:as far as I remember Clinton didn't even use anything from the Dossier during the campaign


Yeah, that was the question I had about all of this. If the DNC really did help fund the dossier, why the fuck didn't they use any of it?

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Oct 25, 2017 13:47:06

pacino wrote:
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Trump says he did not authorize the mission in Niger that resulted in loss of 4 soldiers. generals did

BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR STRATEGY TO FOREIGN INTERVENTION, DONALD!!!!!


Just like how he blamed them for losing Ryan Owens in Yemen.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Bucky » Wed Oct 25, 2017 13:47:43

pacino wrote:
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Trump says he did not authorize the mission in Niger that resulted in loss of 4 soldiers. generals did

BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR STRATEGY TO FOREIGN INTERVENTION, DONALD!!!!!



did he really abstain himself of responsibility? I guess he's only "commander in chief" some of the time.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 25, 2017 13:54:45

Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:
@JohnJHarwood
Trump says he did not authorize the mission in Niger that resulted in loss of 4 soldiers. generals did

BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR STRATEGY TO FOREIGN INTERVENTION, DONALD!!!!!



did he really abstain himself of responsibility? I guess he's only "commander in chief" some of the time.

the reason we are in Niger and other countries is ostensibly to prevent ISIS from gaining a stronghold and they've changed philosophy to allow independent authority for the Pentagon to do raids and such against ISIS. trump likely doesn't even read or listen to the daily briefing on the topic.

Obama likely would've been consulted, weighed the pros and cons, gotten a couple viewpoints, then made a decision. whether it was the right one, who knows, but he'd then own it. none of that happens under Trump. from reports the military is pretty much independent and running how it wants to run without much executive oversight.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 13:56:00

Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:
@JohnJHarwood
Trump says he did not authorize the mission in Niger that resulted in loss of 4 soldiers. generals did

BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR STRATEGY TO FOREIGN INTERVENTION, DONALD!!!!!



did he really abstain himself of responsibility? I guess he's only "commander in chief" some of the time.


I think I am unreliable because I took the memory thing so offensively that I checked out it would seem, but I also would be recorded as missing that dodge in accountability. He clearly said that he is following, not leading in military matters, so maybe. The strategy he outline (second time today really for the first part), is that 'we beat ISIS', and now we are meeting them where they are fleeing to.

Clearly he knows nothing if he is declaring victory. One of his yapping dogs also said that, maybe old minister of misinformation and propaganda Sarah spewed that fourth.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 14:05:19

When Donald is talking about how smart he is, and how he has the best people, I''d like to offer the reminder that they could not figure out how to work the lights at the White House for more then a little while.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 14:56:08

The Associated Press reported Wednesday that the Pennsylvania Department of State's Jonathan Marks reported to a state House committee that his office found 544 ballots cast illegally out of 93 million during the past 18 years.


That is pretty close to a 0.0006% clip. Point is that it happened. That is since 2000.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Oct 25, 2017 14:59:13

What was illegal about them? Did they count in the tally for those elections?

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 14:59:36

Tomi Lahren don't think that NFL players know 'what exactly are you (they) kneeling for?' She thinks that if she asked 100 players that she would get 100 completely different answers, if she got an answer at all (smells like she thinks that might be dumb).
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 15:00:16

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jerseyhoya wrote:But lying is only bad when Republicans do it, I forgot

Yeh, because someone said that.

Hack.

I don't really care who funded it, though it sounds like both parties did. The question is if it is true or not and it certainly appears that most or all of it is. Your party is being run by a bunch of traitors, so hop down off your high horse.

It seems like the thread, including your post, has reached a consensus that lying does not matter when Democrats do it. But I'm the hack, so it's all good.



I certainly never said that lying was ok. I just think that the content and truth of the dossier is a more salient point. Much of it has already been backed up and some GOP campaign got it started. I think it was dumb of Clinton to lie about it, but that is her way of handling things. This is why I thought she was a bad candidate and said so very early in the primary. She's now a historical footnote. But I think we've spent enough time hunting down Clinton scandals. It's been 30 years. It's time for you guys to let go of your boogeyman and focus on stopping the monstrosity in the WH. I realize you're hoping he can hang on long enough for you guys to squeeze out a tax bill that will really screw poor and middle class people, but maybe it's time to stop with the dems-do-it-too line and do something to help?
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 15:03:20

CalvinBall wrote:What was illegal about them? Did they count in the tally for those elections?


Non-citizens voted. No word on if these were counted, but one has to assume yes.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 15:10:09

thephan wrote:Tomi Lahren don't think that NFL players know 'what exactly are you (they) kneeling for?' She thinks that if she asked 100 players that she would get 100 completely different answers, if she got an answer at all (smells like she thinks that might be dumb).

That crap makes me legit mad. If they were parroting the same statement, she'd call them brainless. But if they engage in a similar/same protest for various personal reasons, they're dumb.

As if you'd get the same answer from every protester at any given protest. Maddening.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Oct 25, 2017 15:25:15

Tomi certainly cannot spend any time talking about this train wreck of a presidency so lets continue to talk about the 75 seconds each week that American citizens, who happen to be professional athletes, exercise their First Amendment rights. Agent Orange disrespects people every fucking day on Twitter, sometimes multiples times a day.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 25, 2017 20:11:48

George HW Bush put out an apology because he's been slapping women's asses for 93 years
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Oct 25, 2017 23:59:25

pacino wrote:George HW Bush put out an apology because he's been slapping women's asses for 93 years


Think it's just been a few times since he has been wheel chair bound.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 07:34:20

I want to hear about the joke. Lets get that dirty joke out there. Just the idea of him telling a dirty joke is amusing.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 07:38:00

If Trump ever gets a 'big win' again, does he let go of the electoral college?
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 26, 2017 07:40:48

Want to know who my favorite magician is? David Cop-a-feel

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