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by **JUburton** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 08:35:09

it's good that our one republican comes in here not to defend what his party is doing, but to refute an obviously wrong report. thanks for keeping fake news at bay!

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 08:53:11

it's always good to point out misinformation

by **JUburton** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 08:57:18

I get that but I feel like we're all informed enough in here that the Sep 30th deadline is obviously because of the reconciliation timeline.

That is until McConnell dumps the legislative filibuster.

by **thephan** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:45:51

From the F*CK the Coastal elites files, Trump playbook page #7, come these tidbits (WaPo article).

14 of the 15 states that would stand to gain from block grants are run by Republicans; Democratic megastates including California, New York and Massachusetts would lose billions of dollars, a feature both Graham and Cassidy have talked up to conservatives.

A feature. Wow.

“No longer will four blue states get 40 percent of the money,” said Graham to Breitbart. “A state like Mississippi, they get a 900 percent increase. South Carolina gets 300 percent.”

Translate: No longer will states with population centers that power the US get proportional access to their taxpayers contributions, but we will redistribute that wealth to good, solid Trump country.

“It is not practical for New Hampshire to craft a system with over $1 billion in cuts to federal funding,” Gov. Chris Sununu (R-N.H.) said on Monday

A state with 1.335 million citizens.

Cassidy and Kennedy representing Louisiana, a state which expanded Medicaid in 2016, is a state that would get roughly $2.3 billion less in health-care funding over 10 years (only $230M/yr less).

“I just don’t care about the coverage numbers,” [CBO scoring] Cassidy said last week, “because their methodology has proven to be wrong.”

Translation: I don't know nuthin', and I don't care period, but to double down I will take this opportunity to propagate the lie that CBO is incompetent.

Source of quotes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... story.html

by **traderdave** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:22:05

Yeah, fuck those Democrats. Based on Graham's statement above, this legislation is discriminatory as funding reduction are targeted at Democrats.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:32:43

Just give them back the Confederacy, their precious flag and their statues, divide the country and be done with it.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:42:05

JFLNYC wrote:Just give them back the Confederacy, their precious flag and their statues, divide the country and be done with it.

Hey now.

by **JFLNYC** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:44:44

Fine. Let each state vote for whether they want to be in the Union or Confederacy. :-D

by **thephan** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:08:48

Avalere Health, a Washington-based health policy consulting firm, forecasts that federal money devoted to Medicaid and private insurance subsidies would shrink by $215 billion between 2020, when the plan would begin, and 2026, the last year money is provided in the Graham-Cassidy bill.

Not even $50B/year, so no crying.

Good news for Virginia is that we can reverse our skimpy ways and grab $3B in new funds.

article

by **Bucky** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:35:55

<inspired by a barry jive fb link, but something that's always bewildered me>

Hey you SCOTUS nerds: How in the world does civil forfeiture even come close to being upheld? On its face, it seems like a slam-dunk NO to me.

by **Werthless** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:48:09

It's upheld so we can easily spot which politicians are anti-American authoritarian assholes. Might not be needed anymore.

by **thephan** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:52:27

Tom Price hacking away at waste within his department prefers to fly private jets to where he is going, including a trip from DC to Philly.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 13:51:46

JFLNYC wrote:Just give them back the Confederacy, their precious flag and their statues, divide the country and be done with it.

In.

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 14:37:43

Bucky wrote:<inspired by a barry jive fb link, but something that's always bewildered me>

Hey you SCOTUS nerds: How in the world does civil forfeiture even come close to being upheld? On its face, it seems like a slam-dunk NO to me.

I find it disgusting, so you got me.

In all seriousness, their rationale pretty much sucks. It essentially boils down to "we've always held it to be constitutional, so it's still constitutional."

http://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-ruling-on-civil-forfeiture-2014-11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States#Legal_origins

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 14:44:58

Louisiana gov comes out against Graham/Cassidy bill.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 14:46:22

During a luncheon at the United Nations on Wednesday, President Donald Trump reportedly told African leaders that he has “so many friends going to your countries trying to get rich.”

“Africa has tremendous business potential,” the president said.

He later referred to the non-existent country of “Nambia” when discussing health crises on the continent. It is unclear if Trump was referring to Namibia or Zambia. There is no country called Nambia.

by **traderdave** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 15:49:46

He is a deal maker. Perhaps this was his first attempt at trying to merger Namibia and Zambia. Seriously, it hard to imagine why the opinion of America and Americans is so low.

by **Werthless** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 15:52:03

JFLNYC wrote:Just give them back the Confederacy, their precious flag and their statues, divide the country and be done with it.

Glad to see more people being pro-secession. It's a principle that America was founded on!

by **thephan** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 16:22:36

Above I incorrectly noted that Louisiana was projected to lose 2.3B over 10 years causing potential harm to it 1.3M residents. More recently Dr. Rebekah Gee, the Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Health overseeing $14B, the state’s largest agency with a budget. Although I am certain that Dr. Gee would welcome a return of $900M, but the Post is in error, so that is a $400M/year hit to the Louisiana Department of Health budget, which is impossible to make up. She would be overseeing a task of determining who gets care, sort of the often reported Canada conundrum.

Of course both the Louisiana Senators, Cassidy and Kennedy, are playing different roles in the same sad play. Cassidy as architect of a crisis in the state he represents, with Kennedy as henchman working to assure misery by restricting the type care that a state could provide.

So, of course the Governor is opposed to the bill his senator sponsored, and his other piled on so quickly to support.

by **Doll Is Mine** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 17:23:50

Apparently, Manafort offered private briefings on the 2016 race to Russian ally of Putin when he was Trump's campaign manager.

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