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If the 2020 Presidential election were tommorrow who would you vote for?

Trump
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4%
Democratic Challenger no matter who
39
81%
Other
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Total votes : 48

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Postby pacino » Tue Sep 19, 2017 14:08:28

another another one
ANother conservative woman files suit against FOX News

this time accuses Charles Payne, one of the FOX Business guys, of raping her:

Fox News, which for more than a year has dealt with the fallout from an embarrassing sexual harassment scandal, was sued on Monday by the political commentator Scottie Nell Hughes, who claimed that she had been raped by the longtime anchor Charles Payne and was then retaliated against by the network after she came forward with her allegation.

Mr. Payne, the host of “Making Money” on Fox Business, returned to the air this month after the network suspended him in July pending an investigation into his conduct. Upon his return, the network said that it had completed the investigation, which began after Ms. Hughes took her allegations to the network in late June.

Mr. Payne’s lawyer, Jonathan N. Halpern, said in a statement on Monday that his client ”vehemently denies any wrongdoing and will defend himself vigorously against this baseless complaint.”

“We are confident that when the evidence is presented in this case,” he continued, “Mr. Payne will be fully vindicated and these outrageous accusations against him will be confirmed as completely false.”

In her lawsuit, Ms. Hughes said that Mr. Payne had “pressured” his way into her hotel room in July 2013 and coerced her to have sexual intercourse with him, even though she had refused his advances by telling him “no” and “stop.”

According to the suit, Ms. Hughes was “shocked and ashamed” and did not immediately report the episode. She said that over the next two years she was forced to engage in a sexual relationship with Mr. Payne. In exchange, she said, she received career opportunities, including increased appearances on Fox News and Fox Business and the promise that Mr. Payne would help her land a contributor contract, a job that can pay several hundred thousand dollars a year. Ms. Hughes never became a paid contributor at either channel.
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Postby pacino » Tue Sep 19, 2017 14:32:21

Senator Kenndy of Louisiana attached an amendment to Graham-Cassidy barring states from using the money to set up single payer systems because the feds have to the right to stop bad policy.

let's see if his idea holds when Democrats take over DC again. and you don't have to wait, the answer will be no it won't hold.
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Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 19, 2017 15:05:15

pacino wrote:Senator Kenndy of Louisiana attached an amendment to Graham-Cassidy barring states from using the money to set up single payer systems because the feds have to the right to stop bad policy.

let's see if his idea holds when Democrats take over DC again. and you don't have to wait, the answer will be no it won't hold.


:lol:

Republicans are such hypocrites.

No states rights for you California and New York!

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Postby curveball » Tue Sep 19, 2017 15:09:44

Doesn't Massachusetts have a type of single payer system? What's going to happen there?

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Postby pacino » Tue Sep 19, 2017 15:25:45

they have universal healthcare, but no public plan someone can choose outside of medicaid. medicaid would be decimated but they could continue with the rest of their system if they wanted, though they'd get way less federal funds.

it's basically the ACA on a state level with subsidies and mandates, a compromise.
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Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 19, 2017 15:37:29

Zimbabwe was having none of it.

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Postby drsmooth » Tue Sep 19, 2017 16:01:12

Werthless wrote:Trump is only pro-war when he's in charge. He's perfectly happy to be anti-war when not in charge. He doesn't think at all about any things.


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Postby Werthless » Tue Sep 19, 2017 16:53:49

drsmooth wrote:
Werthless wrote:Trump is only pro-war when he's in charge. He's perfectly happy to be anti-war when not in charge. He doesn't think at all about any things.


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Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 19, 2017 17:16:12

How does someone like John Barrasso get elected? The guy is an asshole.

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Postby thephan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 17:48:09

I love that the rehashed idea of overturning healthcare is to put the states in charge. Where it looks like it comes with *some* of the ACHA money, there is no scratch for managing and administrating. That means the states will need to stand up an office, infrastructure, and some level of staffing to address the insurance needs of the citizens, but there is no way to pay for it ... except... raising state taxes! Good show, well thought through. I get that there are state offices already, but these are in no way shape, or form ready to take on this massively expanded role unless the gambit is that the entire concept, then best and most affordable concept that the President has promised again and again, will fall on its face drowning in 2 inches of water.

10 Bi-Partisan Governors sent a letter to Tom and Chuck requesting that this measure be shelved for the burden it would put on their sates, and its peoples. Where it was slick to get Heller on board as a co-sponsor, Sandoval is signed in opposition.
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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 19, 2017 18:05:48

Love how every response to these reports by the person the report is about is FIND THE LEAKERS

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Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Sep 19, 2017 18:56:23

They want the states in charge because they've spent decades taking over state legislatures all over the country, complete with ALEC created legislation for states to cut and paste into their bills. They'll kill the ACA there if need be
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Postby swishnicholson » Tue Sep 19, 2017 19:20:07

Loved how the UN speech had to two main points:

1. Excoriating the nation that refuses to sit down and discuss limiting their nuclear program

2. Excoriating the nation that signed a treaty limiting their nuclear program.
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Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Sep 19, 2017 20:01:40

So the reason for the renewed push to repeal the ACA?

The Koch brothers are stopping donations until that and tax reform is done

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tax-reform
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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Sep 19, 2017 21:52:41

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:So the reason for the renewed push to repeal the ACA?

The Koch brothers are stopping donations until that and tax reform is done

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tax-reform

The real reason behind the renewed push is because the ability to pass it under reconciliation runs out in 11 days.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Sep 19, 2017 21:59:51

Lol, didn't even click on the article initially. a) it's from June and b) it doesn't say anything about the Koch brothers stopping donations until it and tax reform are done.

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Postby drsmooth » Wed Sep 20, 2017 00:06:35

jerseyhoya wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:So the reason for the renewed push to repeal the ACA?

The Koch brothers are stopping donations until that and tax reform is done

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tax-reform

The real reason behind the renewed push is because the ability to pass it under reconciliation runs out in 11 days.


The real reason is that 'conservative' leadership in America is leprous rat assholes
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Postby Soren » Wed Sep 20, 2017 06:48:55

jerseyhoya wrote:Lol, didn't even click on the article initially. a) it's from June and b) it doesn't say anything about the Koch brothers stopping donations until it and tax reform are done.


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Postby thephan » Wed Sep 20, 2017 08:30:56

Kimmel tells Cassidy to stop using his name because the new bill does not pass "The Kimmel Test", suggests a lie detector as a new test.

Cassidy responds that "more people will have insurance". He says that people just don't understand what is in his bill. Its going to be more affordable, and people will be happy without the individual mandate.
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