Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Fri May 12, 2017 15:17:12

Woody wrote:of course not, dummy


watch your condescending snark, man. people are watching
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Fri May 12, 2017 15:38:43

jerseyhoya wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
thephan wrote:If you like that 36% approval rating, you will hate Trump’s recent 84 percent job approval rating among Republicans from Gallup. There are more ugly numbers from the specific questions as you can review here in this article about why impeachment is unlikely at best.

That number is hard to get my head around, but it also serves as a reminder that I live in a bubble.


Only saw it mentioned in a Twitter notification/haven't dug into the poll numbers, but Trump is apparently losing support on the higher limits. That means, there was a drop off from those who "strongly support" to just "support." (Or whatever terminology the poll used... I'll try and find the tweet again).

https://twitter.com/nickgourevitch/status/863023097594748928

Intensity of support is eroding. In general you're not gonna go from strongly supporting someone to opposing them. There is a transition to soft support before you move to opposition.

And also with all public opinion stuff it's always worth remembering most people don't spend all day on Twitter or following the news. They catch snippets here and there talking to friends or coworkers or flipping between NCIS and Real Housewives of wherever. It takes time to erode previously held beliefs, and even more time if you're not actively consuming news that might cause you to update your opinions.


few pages behind, but i did see a poll regarding news consumption. had D numbers higher than Rs by a few points and much higher than past numbers for Ds, iirc.

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Gimpy » Fri May 12, 2017 18:38:22

Some congressional Democrats have made a formal request to the White House for all "tapes" and recorded communications between Trump and Comey.

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Fri May 12, 2017 21:48:31

Means nothing.

This all means nothing.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri May 12, 2017 22:50:22

attended the Berks Democratic Spring Fling tonight; feelin' like we have some decent candidates. everyone vote in your primaries on Tuesday!
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby phatj » Fri May 12, 2017 22:54:09

My wife is running for borough council!
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Fri May 12, 2017 22:57:34

pacino wrote:attended the Berks Democratic Spring Fling tonight; feelin' like we have some decent candidates. everyone vote in your primaries on Tuesday!


Some total loon is running in maidencreek. Used to live in Lancaster, did tons of shady shit. Some guy wrote a letter to the editor about her and she sued him for libel. She's come to the last few meetings and tried to cause a scene to no avail.

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Fri May 12, 2017 23:24:19

The Savior wrote:Means nothing.

This all means nothing.


no time to wax philosophical on us, Savior

oh, you're not referring to life, generally

what WOULD mean something to you, with respect to the thread topic, or maybe specifically, to putting drumpf on trial?
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri May 12, 2017 23:29:07

ReadingPhilly wrote:
pacino wrote:attended the Berks Democratic Spring Fling tonight; feelin' like we have some decent candidates. everyone vote in your primaries on Tuesday!


Some total loon is running in maidencreek. Used to live in Lancaster, did tons of shady #$!&@. Some guy wrote a letter to the editor about her and she sued him for libel. She's come to the last few meetings and tried to cause a scene to no avail.

Vote my wife!
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Sat May 13, 2017 00:09:30

Senator John (Blockead) Cornyn, logical entry on drumpf's shortlist for new head of FBI

I want him nominated just to continue the abject public humiliation of the Senate majority
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat May 13, 2017 00:26:09

I wonder if this country needs to have the minority more power. The fact that the majority house in congress can stonewall an investigation into whether the president is committing illegal acts is a bit concerning. At this point Trump could probably appoint himself president for life and who would stop him?
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat May 13, 2017 00:44:27

Comey not testifying....
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat May 13, 2017 04:58:51

Woody wrote:Spicer is definitely Piggy


I've always thought of piggy as representing logic and reason and a female voice. I don't think there is a piggy character in the Trump story
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat May 13, 2017 05:05:38

TenuredVulture wrote:Also, the 84% number shouldn't be analyzed in a vacuum. To be sure, it demonstrates a partisan divide, but how does it compare to say D approval of Obama or R appoval of Bush? What I'm suggesting is that 84% percent support among people who identify as Republican (in an intensely partisan environment) may not really be that great. And remember, in a normal presidency, we'd still be in the honeymoon period. Presidents typically see a drop off in support in days 100-150.

I do think though this means that for Trump's support to erode further, it will have to be among Republicans, so if there are continued declines, they'll be gradual.

The other number to watch is the extent to which fewer identify as Rs as things progress. I think there's a lot of fuzziness in Party ID numbers--lots of people call themselves independents, but pretty reliably vote one way or the other. So, someone who "leans" Republican may be declaring himself an independent in recent polls.


I have a lot of Rep friends who are now calling themselves libertarians. They still hold the same fucked-up, poor-people-are-taking-my-money ideas, but now they call themselves libertarians, even though they are far from being libertarians.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Sat May 13, 2017 07:44:48

Warszawa wrote:Comey not testifying....


not next week, no
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sat May 13, 2017 09:06:30

Would love to hear Comey's story but between classified info and communications subject to Executive Privilege I'm not sure he could speak publicly about much more than the weather.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Sat May 13, 2017 09:48:57

the man who watches cable news all day:

“Here's the thing, the difference between me and another president,” Trump said. “Another president, I won't use names, but another president doesn't do what I'm doing. They really don't. I'm not saying that in a bragging way.”

“I know,” Jeannine Pirro said.

“I'm not saying it any way,” Trump said. “Another president, Jeannine, will sit in the Oval Office and do practically nothing all day.”
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Gimpy » Sat May 13, 2017 09:50:47

Comey's not going to volunteer his testimony. He'll wait for a subpoena so he doesn't look like a disgruntled ex employee complaining about his former boss.

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Youseff » Sat May 13, 2017 10:56:48

Gimpy wrote:Comey's not going to volunteer his testimony. He'll wait for a subpoena so he doesn't look like a disgruntled ex employee complaining about his former boss.


seems like the righ way to handle it, but in general, this is an awfully slow dance the FBI is doing.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Sat May 13, 2017 12:19:06

Youseff wrote:
Gimpy wrote:Comey's not going to volunteer his testimony. He'll wait for a subpoena so he doesn't look like a disgruntled ex employee complaining about his former boss.


seems like the righ way to handle it, but in general, this is an awfully slow dance the FBI is doing.



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