pacino wrote:misogynyst NH state lawmaker faces expulsion

I've hated the red pill idiots since 2011

We are only four months into this Presidency and things have absolutely reached a tipping point (perhaps we are even well beyond the point) where our elected representatives need to do some serious soul searching about whether they want to act to save our nation from the fate of others or just continue to bury their heads in the sand.

"At the time of the Watergate issue in America, I was deeply moved by the scene in the House Judiciary Committee, where each member of the committee expressed his own or her own heart based upon the spirit of the American Constitution. It was this attitude, I think, that rescued American democracy."

- Japanese Prime Minister Takeo Miki, March 1975

Good bye Jim Comey



I just love people losing their shit about the 'Show Boat' comment. I am sure that we have all fired show boaters.

Donni is just a joke.

pacino wrote:DAPL had a small leak last month

84 gallons. Get over it. DAPL won the election. It's over.

thephan wrote:If you like that 36% approval rating, you will hate Trump’s recent 84 percent job approval rating among Republicans from Gallup. There are more ugly numbers from the specific questions as you can review here in this article about why impeachment is unlikely at best.

That number is hard to get my head around, but it also serves as a reminder that I live in a bubble.

Only saw it mentioned in a Twitter notification/haven't dug into the poll numbers, but Trump is apparently losing support on the higher limits. That means, there was a drop off from those who "strongly support" to just "support." (Or whatever terminology the poll used... I'll try and find the tweet again).

I've enjoyed all the A Few Good Men references on Twitter post Holt interview, and then again with the tweets this AM.

The best (worst?) part is he genuinely doesn't have the knowledge base to recognize what he's doing is wrong. He's Jessup leaving the witness stand wanting to go back to his base or whatever, not realizing that in the Holt interview he at the very least admitted to a serious violation of norms if not giving a starting point for eventual articles of impeachment if things continue spiraling. Then because he's Trump and only knows how to do one thing, he doubles down this morning, and in doing so suggests there might be material that can be subpoenaed that can help build out a case in the future.

Honestly can't imagine what it's like to work in the WH right now. Crazytown.

the pro-Trump compared to anti-Democrat support is probably breaking up a bit. he needs to make things partisan to keep the former tied to the latter. Republicans are certainly helping that.

I am thinking that if there are recording, they are literally on tape.

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:If you like that 36% approval rating, you will hate Trump’s recent 84 percent job approval rating among Republicans from Gallup. There are more ugly numbers from the specific questions as you can review here in this article about why impeachment is unlikely at best.

That number is hard to get my head around, but it also serves as a reminder that I live in a bubble.

Only saw it mentioned in a Twitter notification/haven't dug into the poll numbers, but Trump is apparently losing support on the higher limits. That means, there was a drop off from those who "strongly support" to just "support." (Or whatever terminology the poll used... I'll try and find the tweet again).

https://twitter.com/nickgourevitch/status/863023097594748928

Intensity of support is eroding. In general you're not gonna go from strongly supporting someone to opposing them. There is a transition to soft support before you move to opposition.

And also with all public opinion stuff it's always worth remembering most people don't spend all day on Twitter or following the news. They catch snippets here and there talking to friends or coworkers or flipping between NCIS and Real Housewives of wherever. It takes time to erode previously held beliefs, and even more time if you're not actively consuming news that might cause you to update your opinions.

If you consume fake news do you have fake support? Is any eroding of such support then fake eroding or is that the case only if the fake support was eroded by fake news?

Also, the 84% number shouldn't be analyzed in a vacuum. To be sure, it demonstrates a partisan divide, but how does it compare to say D approval of Obama or R appoval of Bush? What I'm suggesting is that 84% percent support among people who identify as Republican (in an intensely partisan environment) may not really be that great. And remember, in a normal presidency, we'd still be in the honeymoon period. Presidents typically see a drop off in support in days 100-150.

I do think though this means that for Trump's support to erode further, it will have to be among Republicans, so if there are continued declines, they'll be gradual.

The other number to watch is the extent to which fewer identify as Rs as things progress. I think there's a lot of fuzziness in Party ID numbers--lots of people call themselves independents, but pretty reliably vote one way or the other. So, someone who "leans" Republican may be declaring himself an independent in recent polls.

jerseyhoya wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:If you like that 36% approval rating, you will hate Trump’s recent 84 percent job approval rating among Republicans from Gallup. There are more ugly numbers from the specific questions as you can review here in this article about why impeachment is unlikely at best.

That number is hard to get my head around, but it also serves as a reminder that I live in a bubble.

Only saw it mentioned in a Twitter notification/haven't dug into the poll numbers, but Trump is apparently losing support on the higher limits. That means, there was a drop off from those who "strongly support" to just "support." (Or whatever terminology the poll used... I'll try and find the tweet again).

https://twitter.com/nickgourevitch/status/863023097594748928

Intensity of support is eroding. In general you're not gonna go from strongly supporting someone to opposing them. There is a transition to soft support before you move to opposition.

And also with all public opinion stuff it's always worth remembering most people don't spend all day on Twitter or following the news. They catch snippets here and there talking to friends or coworkers or flipping between NCIS and Real Housewives of wherever. It takes time to erode previously held beliefs, and even more time if you're not actively consuming news that might cause you to update your opinions.

Interesting. I would've thought Trump supporters were more of the Swamp People or Storage Wars types.

@TraderDave... you have any advanced age parents who grew up outside of the city influence? My in laws punctuate their Fox News exclusively with NCIS, Blue Bloods, John Wayne movies. If you could make a merged channel that had those 4 items you could own inland, central Florida.

WRT the 84%, that likely reflects the after glow of (fact free) Repeal and Replace, and a good last week, before this weeks implosion.

expecting the political metrics/538 quantifiers may soon have to start tracking #s of R congresspersons whose district offices are egged/cars tipped over/homes burned down

thephan wrote:@TraderDave... you have any advanced age parents who grew up outside of the city influence? My in laws punctuate their Fox News exclusively with NCIS, Blue Bloods, John Wayne movies. If you could make a merged channel that had those 4 items you could own inland, central Florida.

No Matlock?

traderdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:If you like that 36% approval rating, you will hate Trump’s recent 84 percent job approval rating among Republicans from Gallup. There are more ugly numbers from the specific questions as you can review here in this article about why impeachment is unlikely at best.

That number is hard to get my head around, but it also serves as a reminder that I live in a bubble.

Only saw it mentioned in a Twitter notification/haven't dug into the poll numbers, but Trump is apparently losing support on the higher limits. That means, there was a drop off from those who "strongly support" to just "support." (Or whatever terminology the poll used... I'll try and find the tweet again).

https://twitter.com/nickgourevitch/status/863023097594748928

Intensity of support is eroding. In general you're not gonna go from strongly supporting someone to opposing them. There is a transition to soft support before you move to opposition.

And also with all public opinion stuff it's always worth remembering most people don't spend all day on Twitter or following the news. They catch snippets here and there talking to friends or coworkers or flipping between NCIS and Real Housewives of wherever. It takes time to erode previously held beliefs, and even more time if you're not actively consuming news that might cause you to update your opinions.

Interesting. I would've thought Trump supporters were more of the Swamp People or Storage Wars types.

I'd bet many in Trump's base watch an awful lot of CBS

Sarah Huckleberry got all tripped up on quoting (fake news) credible sources where as she was actually quoting the WH's own spin as credible fact. I do not think she was intentional, just falling for the current playbook of repeat, repeat again, claim it as fact, finish by referencing misinformation as credible information. She got tripped by "her" own play.