Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue May 09, 2017 23:45:34

Discuss.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue May 09, 2017 23:56:53

The excuse that trump fired Comey over the handling of the Hillary emails is what? Idiotic? Ludicrous? Demeaning to every citizen of the United States? Who would actually believe this? News outlets are actually debating the truth of it? There is no debate. The media needs to man up.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed May 10, 2017 01:11:26

Reporrts that Trump was getting increasingly pissed off about the Russian investigation/inability to control the narrative. Also saw that Grand Jury subpoenas were issued in the Russian investigation recently. We seem to be lucky enough to live in a country where our corrupt politicians are typically inept.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed May 10, 2017 06:15:18


"While shock dominated much of the FBI and the White House, the mood was more elated at Roger Stone's house in Florida. Several Stone allies and friends said Stone, who has been frequently mentioned in the investigation, encouraged the president to fire Comey in conversations in recent weeks.

On Twitter, Stone signaled praise for the move by posting an image of Trump from The Apprentice saying "You're fired."

Stone declined to comment Tuesday night but said he was enjoying a fine cigar."
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed May 10, 2017 07:22:49

If there is a fire with the Russia thing, I am leaning towards Trump not being involved. He is too absolutely inept.

Just have to hope if bannon or whoever had contact, trump found out at a later date. That would still be illegal, right?

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 08:36:10

this idiot president of ours doesnt even know how to thread tweets
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 08:38:36

Time to go after Haitians:
WASHINGTON (AP) — As the Trump administration weighs extending humanitarian protections for thousands of Haitian immigrants, officials are digging for unusual information: How many have been convicted of crimes.

Internal emails obtained by The Associated Press show a top immigration official wanted not only crime data on Haitians who are protected from deportation under the Temporary Protected Status program, but also how many were receiving public benefits. Such immigrants aren’t eligible for welfare benefits.

Roughly 50,000 Haitians have been allowed to live in the U.S. under the program in the aftermath of a 2010 earthquake, and the questions about misdeeds among them comes at a critical moment. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly must decide soon whether to continue protecting the group from deportation.

Normally the decision depends on whether conditions in the immigrants’ home country have improved. But emails suggest Kelly is looking at other criteria as well.

Department spokesman David Lapan said Tuesday that criminal history and other information requested by policy chief Kathy Nuebel Kovarik won’t be used to make a final decision about Temporary Protected Status. Lapan said the questions were asked so that Kelly could have a fuller understanding of who is in the program.

But Lapan’s explanation doesn’t reflect the apparent importance placed on the questions by Kovarik, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services head of policy and strategy, in repeated emails to her staff.

The request for criminal data for an entire ethnic community is unorthodox. Federal law doesn’t specify it should be a consideration for Temporary Protected Status, and the government has never said it would use a community’s behavior in deciding if a country’s citizens should be allowed to stay.

unorthodox, you say
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 08:40:32

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Wed May 10, 2017 08:44:47

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 08:47:54

Good to see Bob Casey vote against the FDA pick. He's really come around over the past few months.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 08:53:43

a liberal was elected in South Korea on reviewing THAAD, sunshine policy towards North Korea, and taking on big business.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed May 10, 2017 08:55:31

slugsrbad wrote:Reporrts that Trump was getting increasingly pissed off about the Russian investigation/inability to control the narrative. Also saw that Grand Jury subpoenas were issued in the Russian investigation recently. We seem to be lucky enough to live in a country where our corrupt politicians are typically inept.


Actual leaks or just people going with 'it figures'?
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed May 10, 2017 08:57:25

The Kushner project being pitched to the Chinese is apparently in a lot of trouble. The anchor tenant pulled out, they lost their tax credits, and it is open war with the Jersey City mayor. The Kushner Company pattern is that when the chips are down you go to China and get cash.

In an email, the company said of Meyer’s pitch, “Kushner Companies apologizes if that mention of her brother was in any way interpreted as an attempt to lure investors. That was not Ms. Meyer’s intention.” Of the photograph of the president, Kushner Cos. said, “The image was part of a presentation by the event’s organizers. Kushner Companies had nothing to do with it.


Oh, it was the event organizers who put up the slide associating the visas, and access to the president, not KushCo. Got it. Makes perfect sense.

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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 09:00:20

thephan wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Reporrts that Trump was getting increasingly pissed off about the Russian investigation/inability to control the narrative. Also saw that Grand Jury subpoenas were issued in the Russian investigation recently. We seem to be lucky enough to live in a country where our corrupt politicians are typically inept.


Actual leaks or just people going with 'it figures'?

there is no mainstream reporting, that i've seen, about a grand jury or leaks from it. it came from louise mensch. i watched the olbermann clip that alleges it and he provides no evidence, just a lot of conjecture.


let's not jump the gun just yet.
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Unread postby JUburton » Wed May 10, 2017 09:01:55

pacino wrote:Good to see Bob Casey vote against the FDA pick. He's really come around over the past few months.
Gottlieb is at least as standard an R pick as you can get. And was deputy commissioner at one point.

But you can expect companies to push off label promotion as far as possible under first amendment protection. FDA is going to get very weak on that except in the most egregious cases.

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Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 09:03:10

JUburton wrote:
pacino wrote:Good to see Bob Casey vote against the FDA pick. He's really come around over the past few months.
Gottlieb is at least as standard an R pick as you can get. And was deputy commissioner at one point.

But you can expect companies to push off label promotion as far as possible under first amendment protection. FDA is going to get very weak on that except in the most egregious cases.

i just like to see Casey not vote 'yea' like the Delaware guys did and voting for the prescription drug companies that are all over our state.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed May 10, 2017 09:03:48

I know we know, but this needs to be in every thread for a while that Yates was ignored because she was appointed by Obama, that's it. Her curse of competency, which got her job after job and promotion after promotion was her undoing because HRC might have given her another promotion to a brighter spotlight. The exchange below, as recorded by the Washington Post, is sadly amazing.

Spicer then appeared to suggest that the warning from Yates was dismissed because it was from Yates.

“Let’s look at, again, how this came down,” he replied. “Someone who is not exactly a supporter of the president’s agenda, who, a couple of days after this first conversation took place, refused to uphold a lawful order of the president’s. Who is not exactly someone who was excited about President Trump taking office or his agenda.”

Spicer was asked in subsequent questions to explain his comments about Yates’s loyalty to the administration.

“Appointed by the Obama administration and a strong supporter of Clinton,” Spicer said at one point. Asked to clarify his assertion that she was a “supporter of Clinton,” Spicer later said Yates was “widely rumored to play a large role in the Justice Department if Hillary Clinton had won.”

NBC’s Hallie Jackson pressed him on that point. Was it the right call for Flynn to sit in on meetings despite Yates’s warning?

“What you have is somebody who was an Obama appointee coming in and saying — you have somebody who you have to wonder why they’re telling you something,” Spicer replied.

“You said it was widely rumored that she wanted to be a part of the Clinton White House potentially,” Jackson replied.

Spicer’s rationale? Yates was “somebody who clearly showed by the fact that career attorneys told her that she should sign the president’s lawful order and then chose not to do it — that vindicates the president’s point. This is not somebody who was looking out — my point is, we were correct in the assumptions we made at the time.”
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Wed May 10, 2017 09:08:05

I really don't want to miss out on potential outrage over Trump aiding and abetting a land grab by Big Hydrocarbon with the National Monument issue. Fromthe last post in the last thread I threw out this:

There is great interest in going after Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in Utah because it is though that there is a significant COAL reserve there. Oil and natural come along for the ride too.


But that whole area, including Bear Ear, might be filthy with oil, so it should be drilled because Obama set it aside (why was it not tapped previously one must wonder).
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Wed May 10, 2017 09:08:19

fwiw, an intrepid reporter looked up Yates' political contributions and she made none this past election cycle.
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Re: Pour One Out For The Comey - Politics Thread

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed May 10, 2017 09:10:39

I read this brief essay the other day that offers a brief, mild defense of Machiavelli as something other than a cynical, manipulative Rasputin-by-the-Mediterranean.

Basically its author suggests Machiavelli was a master ironist - he intended its reader to take him literally, and so walk right into taking personally disastrous political steps that would result in his total failure as a leader.


And then I read Rosenstein's 3-pager, and I thought, "hmmmm"....
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