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I'm tired

how did the wedding come off

I had problems with my laptop and we had some trouble getting the speakers loud enough, but we were able to hammer things out by the time dinner and the toasts were finished. it was "lit"

why

get 3-way switches and you'll have your way a lot of the time!

WheelsFellOff wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

WheelsFellOff wrote:

Bucky wrote:SMDH

class-action bingo hits home depot & menards because 4x4s are not 4x4

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This pisses me off.

It seems like a good idea to force companies to actually use the correct measurements.(A) I have to say that I do a fair amount of building things and I never knew the dimensions aren't correct.(B) I could see people purchasing the wrong sizes because of it(C), though I would think you could return the lumber if it wasn't used yet. Anyway, seems silly to try to get rich off of it, but I can see the merit of making the change.

A) They are using the correct measurements. When the tree is milled it's cut to 2" x 4". Then it's dried, which is where the majority of the size is lost. And then the boards get planed to the final dimensions to remove variance from board to board. If you want to change to starting the process with a 2-1/2"x4-1/2" rough sawn dimension, you're going to need an increase in logging, specifically older growth as it's a 40% increase in cross-sectional area. That's going to result in fewer boards per tree literally no matter how you slice it.

B) That surprises me. Have you never measured anything you were building?

C) The truly important dimension is length and that does not change during the drying process. If the half inch difference causes you to run out of wood, you didn't buy enough lumber, because if you did have boards that were exactly 2" x 4" you'd STILL be short because you most likely didn't take into account the width of the saw kerfs. The solution here isn't to radically change the entire construction industry over pedantics. It's to teach people how lumber is actually milled

A) Well that's the kind of stuff that only someone who works in the industry knows. I'd bet maybe 5% of the population knows that, at most. But if it means logging differently, then I certainly wouldn't want that to happen. My suggestion would to actually call it what it is. It's really about making sure people get what they think they're getting. Labelling some at 4X4 certainly could make people think it's actually 4X4. It seems like a lot of people make the mistake. I'm for whatever fixes that problem.

B) I have generally built projects like my aquaponics system or a coffee table where I know what kinds of things I need and just go through a pick up what I know will work. In those cases, I'm generally using boards of the same thickness and rarely need to buy anything as thick as a 4X4. I think the problem comes into play when someone buys something that needs to be a particular size. I'm rarely in that situation.

C) I wouldn't call it pedantics, since it could cause a real problem if you are constructing something and planned on certain dimensions. But I agree that part of the solution is teaching people. I also think having the actual dimensions on the tag wouldn't exactly kill anyone. It could be on the tag below the industry standard.

update on the surgery: I can breathe through a nostril, sometimes both at the same time, with reasonable frequency.

Alarm didn't go off this morning. Left my house in 15 minutes and still made the train. Need a pair of Big Baller shoes after that

Just got lower level seats to Foo Fighters in October.

My day is done.

Uncle Milty wrote:All my three-ways are they way I like them. If it weren't for confusing guests I'd flip the others.

More like Swinger Milty, am I right?

Bucky wrote:

Pittfan03 wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Pittfan03 wrote:Never thought I'd sound like a TV commercial, but man I'm glad I have a CO detector, and recommend everyone get one. I was sitting around watching TV, and my CO detector goes off. Apparently my dryer wasn't/isn't venting correctly. If I had to work tomorrow, I'd have been asleep, and possibly wouldn't hear my detector go off because of it's location, (apartment only has one).


Scary #$!&@.

yep. What kinds of readings did they get? (i'm assuming you called the fire company).

35-60 in the house, 60 near the dryer.

I assume this was after the dryer had been shut off for a while? That's obviously above normal, but not IDLH territory, but also not someplace you want to be for an extended period.


Listen to Pittfan, kids- Get a CO detector!!!

I did some laundry at like 1-2 PM, and this was about 8:30 to 9:00 PM.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Just got lower level seats to Foo Fighters in October.

My day is done.

i just booked a flight to Greece and this is how I feel too.

job well done

channel 6 news changed their on-screen graphics. don't like it.

actually the whole set is new.

ReadingPhilly wrote:channel 6 news changed their on-screen graphics. don't like it.

actually the whole set is new.

Saw that. Not a huge fan of the graphics, sort of looked like CNN. If you can believe it, there's an entire message board that talks about TV news and graphics that exists. I stumbled upon it a few years ago when this happened to other stations. It's not quite as exciting as BSG.

Uncle Milty wrote:Guess it's my point of reference but I can't believe nearly everyone isn't aware of lumber measurements.

What percent of adults would know that a 4x4 is not 4x4? I would say it can't be more than 35%. (Of the 30 or so adults in my family, I would guess 4 or 5 would know.)

Catching up on this thread after a few days away and the confluence of the cultural approbation topic and the Bill Cosby topic made the think that we should stop using the phrase "hung jury" as it seems culturally insensitive to those of us that are not African American.

speak for yourself, needle dick

My dental hygienist today was Brazilian. Told her to mosey on over to BSG to check out my man Slowhand.

A 2x4 doesn't even look like it's 2 inches by 4 inches. Now, I will confess that I did not know why a 2x4 was not 2 inches by 4 inches. I guess I assumed it was one of the weird things like why sailors use knots and nautical miles rather than MPH and regular miles. But all this makes me wonder--is an LP record really 12 inches? I do remember learning way long ago, people would steal milk crates because they were a handy way to store albums. Then the dairy industry wised up and changed the dimension of milk crates so they didn't fit albums so well. I think people kept stealing them though, because no dorm room was complete without a bunch of Wawa crates. And yes, we did where an onion on our belt.

My two favorite were the flyers "legion of doom" and the eagles "gang green", which for politically correct reasons never gained the traction it deserved.

Regarding the stupid FEDS nickname for the sixers.