just wanted to come here and say peanut butter is fucking amazing.

SMDH

class-action bingo hits home depot & menards because 4x4s are not 4x4

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Wheels Tupay wrote:just wanted to come here and say peanut butter is fucking amazing.

[TJ Miller video of George Washington Carver and invention of peanut butter that I don't have time figure out if available online]

Never thought I'd sound like a TV commercial, but man I'm glad I have a CO detector, and recommend everyone get one. I was sitting around watching TV, and my CO detector goes off. Apparently my dryer wasn't/isn't venting correctly. If I had to work tomorrow, I'd have been asleep, and possibly wouldn't hear my detector go off because of it's location, (apartment only has one).


Scary shit.

Bucky wrote:SMDH

class-action bingo hits home depot & menards because 4x4s are not 4x4

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This pisses me off.

WheelsFellOff wrote:

Bucky wrote:SMDH

class-action bingo hits home depot & menards because 4x4s are not 4x4

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This pisses me off.

It seems like a good idea to force companies to actually use the correct measurements. I have to say that I do a fair amount of building things and I never knew the dimensions aren't correct. I could see people purchasing the wrong sizes because of it, though I would think you could return the lumber if it wasn't used yet. Anyway, seems silly to try to get rich off of it, but I can see the merit of making the change.

Uncle Milty wrote:Whoever decided the orientation of light switches in the good ol' USofA got it backwards or, more accurately, upside down.

what

Pittfan03 wrote:Never thought I'd sound like a TV commercial, but man I'm glad I have a CO detector, and recommend everyone get one. I was sitting around watching TV, and my CO detector goes off. Apparently my dryer wasn't/isn't venting correctly. If I had to work tomorrow, I'd have been asleep, and possibly wouldn't hear my detector go off because of it's location, (apartment only has one).


Scary #$!&@.

yep. What kinds of readings did they get? (i'm assuming you called the fire company).

Monkeyboy wrote:

WheelsFellOff wrote:

Bucky wrote:SMDH

class-action bingo hits home depot & menards because 4x4s are not 4x4

http://www.king5.com/news/nation-world/ ... e=facebook

This pisses me off.

It seems like a good idea to force companies to actually use the correct measurements.(A) I have to say that I do a fair amount of building things and I never knew the dimensions aren't correct.(B) I could see people purchasing the wrong sizes because of it(C), though I would think you could return the lumber if it wasn't used yet. Anyway, seems silly to try to get rich off of it, but I can see the merit of making the change.

A) They are using the correct measurements. When the tree is milled it's cut to 2" x 4". Then it's dried, which is where the majority of the size is lost. And then the boards get planed to the final dimensions to remove variance from board to board. If you want to change to starting the process with a 2-1/2"x4-1/2" rough sawn dimension, you're going to need an increase in logging, specifically older growth as it's a 40% increase in cross-sectional area. That's going to result in fewer boards per tree literally no matter how you slice it.

B) That surprises me. Have you never measured anything you were building?

C) The truly important dimension is length and that does not change during the drying process. If the half inch difference causes you to run out of wood, you didn't buy enough lumber, because if you did have boards that were exactly 2" x 4" you'd STILL be short because you most likely didn't take into account the width of the saw kerfs. The solution here isn't to radically change the entire construction industry over pedantics. It's to teach people how lumber is actually milled

When I built the conservatory Shelly Lumber shipped me about a thousand bucks worth of LVL that was smaller than nominal. (I can't recall exactly, but I think the 4x12s were 11" instead of 11.25"). I asked the draftsman whether I should use that or get something 11.25". He said definitely get 11.25". So I called Shelly and they came and took their stuff back. I GUESS I SHOULDA SUED THEM!!!!

Oh, and the draftsman's wife worked for Shelly, so he had placed the order with them on my behalf, which made things a little more...interesting.

That's a case of not meeting industry standards.11.25" is even an uncommon size as most LVLs are 9-1/2", 11-7/8" , 14" or 16". Was it a rim board (was it 1-1/8" wide instead of 1-3/4")?

Random thoughts thread has taken a turn to the BORING AS FUCK!!!!

Fight me

Let's take it to the This Old House forum, Vila!

I'll throw down a bean on slowhand

Bucky wrote:

Pittfan03 wrote:Never thought I'd sound like a TV commercial, but man I'm glad I have a CO detector, and recommend everyone get one. I was sitting around watching TV, and my CO detector goes off. Apparently my dryer wasn't/isn't venting correctly. If I had to work tomorrow, I'd have been asleep, and possibly wouldn't hear my detector go off because of it's location, (apartment only has one).


Scary #$!&@.

yep. What kinds of readings did they get? (i'm assuming you called the fire company).

35-60 in the house, 60 near the dryer.

WheelsFellOff wrote:That's a case of not meeting industry standards.11.25" is even an uncommon size as most LVLs are 9-1/2", 11-7/8" , 14" or 16". Was it a rim board (was it 1-1/8" wide instead of 1-3/4")?

that was just from faulty memory. So I pulled the plans. Specc'd as '1 3/4" x 9 1/4" LVL SUPPORT BEAM B.O.' (and 'LEDGER' on the other side). (The "O" being me).

And the lumber delivered was actually too BIG, now that I think further. I posited that if I had a few extra hands (4 of them were 24'-6") I could drag my table saw into the driveway and rip them down to proper width. Now that I google, some mfgrs say 9-1/2 is the standard size; other say it is available in both 9-1/4 and 9-1/2. I guess Shelly had sent my 9-1/2. Hooray for standards!

Pittfan03 wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Pittfan03 wrote:Never thought I'd sound like a TV commercial, but man I'm glad I have a CO detector, and recommend everyone get one. I was sitting around watching TV, and my CO detector goes off. Apparently my dryer wasn't/isn't venting correctly. If I had to work tomorrow, I'd have been asleep, and possibly wouldn't hear my detector go off because of it's location, (apartment only has one).


Scary #$!&@.

yep. What kinds of readings did they get? (i'm assuming you called the fire company).

35-60 in the house, 60 near the dryer.

I assume this was after the dryer had been shut off for a while? That's obviously above normal, but not IDLH territory, but also not someplace you want to be for an extended period.


Listen to Pittfan, kids- Get a CO detector!!!

Bucky wrote:

WheelsFellOff wrote:That's a case of not meeting industry standards.11.25" is even an uncommon size as most LVLs are 9-1/2", 11-7/8" , 14" or 16". Was it a rim board (was it 1-1/8" wide instead of 1-3/4")?

that was just from faulty memory. So I pulled the plans. Specc'd as '1 3/4" x 9 1/4" LVL SUPPORT BEAM B.O.' (and 'LEDGER' on the other side). (The "O" being me).

And the lumber delivered was actually too BIG, now that I think further. I posited that if I had a few extra hands (4 of them were 24'-6") I could drag my table saw into the driveway and rip them down to proper width. Now that I google, some mfgrs say 9-1/2 is the standard size; other say it is available in both 9-1/4 and 9-1/2. I guess Shelly had sent my 9-1/2. Hooray for standards!

TIL, Bucky signs things as Bucky, Obviously (B.O.). Or that he's secretly President Obama. I mean, I met Bucky, but I've never met the President, nor have I seen President Obama on live TV during the time I met "B.O."