drsmooth wrote:

pacino wrote:Le Pen issued a summons over fake jobs given to her family; this is the same thing that has caused Fillon to tumble in the polls

this could be enough to make a runoff race Fillon v Macron or maybe a compromise candidate; i doubt it though. i think we're in for a ride.

Does she hold some kind of executive office? Thought she was just a sort of congresspersonlike representative

pacino wrote:the FN holds a few spots in the EU parliament; thus, they have staff, etc.

here's a good read from last year showing the relative power of each MEP

pacino wrote:sorry, that was my first poorly worded post of the day; five is my daily minimum

For the next 90 days, foreign nationals from Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen who are outside the
United States on the effective date of the order, do not currently have a valid visa on the effective date of this
order, and did not have a valid visa at 5:00 eastern standard time on January 27, 2017, are not eligible to travel
to the United States.

pacino wrote:the new stupid ban

For the next 90 days, foreign nationals from Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen who are outside the
United States on the effective date of the order, do not currently have a valid visa on the effective date of this
order, and did not have a valid visa at 5:00 eastern standard time on January 27, 2017, are not eligible to travel
to the United States.

so it'll be retroactive...

In a reversal, the Supreme Court says it will not hear Gavin Grimm's lawsuit against a school policy that requires students to use the bathroom corresponding to their biological sex. The court was scheduled to hear the case this month.

The Supreme Court sent the case back to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals Monday, in a short opinion that cites the Trump administration's recent move to rescind federal guidance that protected transgender students' right to use bathrooms and locker rooms that correspond with their gender identity.

Grimm is a 17-year-old senior who was identified as a girl at birth and who came out as a boy when he was a freshman in high school in Gloucester, Va. He had initially been allowed to use the boys' restroom — but after parents complained, he was told to use a "unisex" bathroom.

pacino wrote:the new stupid ban

For the next 90 days, foreign nationals from Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen who are outside the
United States on the effective date of the order, do not currently have a valid visa on the effective date of this
order, and did not have a valid visa at 5:00 eastern standard time on January 27, 2017, are not eligible to travel
to the United States.

so it'll be retroactive...

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:the new stupid ban

For the next 90 days, foreign nationals from Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen who are outside the
United States on the effective date of the order, do not currently have a valid visa on the effective date of this
order, and did not have a valid visa at 5:00 eastern standard time on January 27, 2017, are not eligible to travel
to the United States.

so it'll be retroactive...

Kinda. It's written in the conjunctive. So the part that you bolded simply means that anyone who hasn't had a valid visa for the past ten days cannot reenter. IOW, you don't have a valid visa AND your visa expired at or prior to 1/27/17 at 5pm.

That suggests to me that anyone whose visa just expired (presumably while traveling) may apply for reentry.

pacino wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:the new stupid ban

For the next 90 days, foreign nationals from Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen who are outside the
United States on the effective date of the order, do not currently have a valid visa on the effective date of this
order, and did not have a valid visa at 5:00 eastern standard time on January 27, 2017, are not eligible to travel
to the United States.

so it'll be retroactive...

Kinda. It's written in the conjunctive. So the part that you bolded simply means that anyone who hasn't had a valid visa for the past ten days cannot reenter. IOW, you don't have a valid visa AND your visa expired at or prior to 1/27/17 at 5pm.

That suggests to me that anyone whose visa just expired (presumably while traveling) may apply for reentry.

I could never be a lawyer. Thanks.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:the new stupid ban

For the next 90 days, foreign nationals from Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen who are outside the
United States on the effective date of the order, do not currently have a valid visa on the effective date of this
order, and did not have a valid visa at 5:00 eastern standard time on January 27, 2017, are not eligible to travel
to the United States.

so it'll be retroactive...

Kinda. It's written in the conjunctive. So the part that you bolded simply means that anyone who hasn't had a valid visa for the past ten days cannot reenter. IOW, you don't have a valid visa AND your visa expired at or prior to 1/27/17 at 5pm.

That suggests to me that anyone whose visa just expired (presumably while traveling) may apply for reentry.

I could never be a lawyer. Thanks.

Don't feel bad. I had to read it three times before I was certain what it meant. Even then, it all depends on what guidance DHS hands down.

My guess is that there's some program to fast-track visaholders whose document expired while out of the country so long as they reapply within 10 days, and they're trying to avoid creating a conflict with that program. But that's just a total guess on my part.