06hawkalum wrote:

Soren wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

traderdave wrote:Money wins again. DeVos is the new Education Secretary. Hide your kids! At least Murkowski and Collins stuck by their guns on this; I think they deserve a lot of credit.

Yup. When it was clear it would only be those two, they could have switched sides to avoid some slight to the GOP party.

This is a vote that could come back to haunt some Republicans though. The pay to play angle is a pretty easy one to exploit.

lol no it won't. It's over. There won't be elections in four years.

Come on guy, you sound like the left-wing brantt with this tired chicken little nonsense.

slugsrbad wrote:McCain voted in favor of DeVos, so no Maverick to the rescue.

slugsrbad wrote:

traderdave wrote:Money wins again. DeVos is the new Education Secretary. Hide your kids! At least Murkowski and Collins stuck by their guns on this; I think they deserve a lot of credit.

Yup. When it was clear it would only be those two, they could have switched sides to avoid some slight to the GOP party.

pacino wrote:i think that's a really good post but I do wonder about this:

It’s mostly going to be a disorganized #$!&@ with governance subject to the whims of our thin-skinned child/old man who gets tired after three phone calls president

This is all true, but in the meantime Congress will do what they want and get him to sign what they pass. This is what I worry about domestically.

I hope he keeps them from accomplishing their agenda, but I'm doubtful on that. I do find it slightly amusing how unprepared they seemed to be to govern. No one on their side thought they'd win, not Ryan, not McConnell and not Trump. They've basically squandered any semblance of a honeymoon period with Trump's crap during the transition and now the Republicans are squabbling among themselves about the ACA. I worry they'll get their acts together and Trump will rubberstamp lots of stuff once he gets past his 'promises'.

jerseyhoya wrote:Last week’s Quinnipiac poll found 48% of people support suspending immigration from terror prone regions even if it means turning away refugees (49% of Indies, 24% of Dems), and 53% support requiring immigrants from Muslim countries to register with the federal government (whatever that means). I know other polls have found more opposition to some of his immigration stuff & it’s question wording dependent, but I don’t think their wording is too bad. Getting kind of off track here, but I have to remind myself that in these waves of outrage we’re seeing in protests and me not talking to anyone who thinks these things are good ideas in my day to day life that these aren’t 25/75 issues.

jerseyhoya wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Last week’s Quinnipiac poll found 48% of people support suspending immigration from terror prone regions even if it means turning away refugees (49% of Indies, 24% of Dems), and 53% support requiring immigrants from Muslim countries to register with the federal government (whatever that means). I know other polls have found more opposition to some of his immigration stuff & it’s question wording dependent, but I don’t think their wording is too bad. Getting kind of off track here, but I have to remind myself that in these waves of outrage we’re seeing in protests and me not talking to anyone who thinks these things are good ideas in my day to day life that these aren’t 25/75 issues.

They asked the suspending immigration from terror prone regions question again post implementation, and it's 44%-50%, so a net -12 swing from their bungled roll out.

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump, according to a new report.

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak," a top Trump donor told Politico two days after Melissa McCarthy portrayed an aggressive Spicer firing insults at journalists, chowing down on gum and busting out a super soaker during a press breifing<sic>.

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

Monkeyboy wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

traderdave wrote:Money wins again. DeVos is the new Education Secretary. Hide your kids! At least Murkowski and Collins stuck by their guns on this; I think they deserve a lot of credit.

Yup. When it was clear it would only be those two, they could have switched sides to avoid some slight to the GOP party.

Or they gave those two the OK to vote for their constituents because they knew they had the votes to get to 50. Sorry if I'm being cynical, but I'll believe someone in the GOP is courageous when something actually gets blocked.

thephan wrote:

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak,"

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

traderdave wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

traderdave wrote:Money wins again. DeVos is the new Education Secretary. Hide your kids! At least Murkowski and Collins stuck by their guns on this; I think they deserve a lot of credit.

Yup. When it was clear it would only be those two, they could have switched sides to avoid some slight to the GOP party.

Or they gave those two the OK to vote for their constituents because they knew they had the votes to get to 50. Sorry if I'm being cynical, but I'll believe someone in the GOP is courageous when something actually gets blocked.

You well may be correct but I will note that both of them expressed serious reservations during the nomination hearing and in subsequent debate. I think it was Senator Murkowski who actually warned that DeVos "not yet count on my vote". I doubt they tried to bring anybody with them but they were pretty candid publicly in their opposition.

TomatoPie wrote:

thephan wrote:

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak,"

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

Leslie Jones should portray Trump.

Woody wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

thephan wrote:

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak,"

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

Leslie Jones should portray Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/entertain ... nnon-trnd/

TenuredVulture wrote:

Woody wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

thephan wrote:

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak,"

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

Leslie Jones should portray Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/entertain ... nnon-trnd/

Have Rosie O'Donnell play Melania.

Squire wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

Woody wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

thephan wrote:

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak,"

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

Leslie Jones should portray Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/entertain ... nnon-trnd/

Have Rosie O'Donnell play Melania.

Actually, I would like to see this too. I think Trump would legitimately lose it.

TomatoPie wrote:

Squire wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

Woody wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

thephan wrote:

The "Saturday Night Live" spoof of White House press secretary Sean Spicer hit a nerve with the White House spokesman and President Trump

"Trump doesn't like his people to look weak,"

But President Trump was most bothered by the fact that Spicer was portrayed by a woman, according to the Politico report.

Leslie Jones should portray Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/entertain ... nnon-trnd/

Have Rosie O'Donnell play Melania.

Actually, I would like to see this too. I think Trump would legitimately lose it.

Can we petition SNL on that