Can someone summarize what Bannon's NSC role entails

PSUsarge wrote:

Youseff wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:Final point - and I didn't vote for him - but JFC if I see one more thing about him losing the popular vote I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.

I think it's important because psychologically it's important to remember the resistance outnumbers the foolish/evil.

Fair. I am just frustrated that this "resistance" didn't get off their asses until after the election. Their naivete and dismissive attitude towards Trump and his supporters is exactly why we're in this position now.

I'm guilty of being dismissive of his supporters. Nothing he is doing is unexpected. There was decades worth of evidence that he is a uniquely selfish, mean & awful person. I fault them for creating a hero out of a scumbag, an idol out of a person that clearly has no moral center. I'm open to hearing how I should be treating them, though. Not being sarcastic.

Soren wrote:Can someone summarize what Bannon's NSC role entails

defacto president of the united states

Yeah I fear that it's basically just Trump delegating the NSC to Bannon. Even more worrisome is that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and the Director of National Intelligence have been removed from the regular meetings and are on an "as needed" basis. How often do you think they'll be invited?

I'd love to get LG's take on this

His expertise in 'black crime' articles on Breitbart will keep us safe.

Seems clumsy to reshape the NSC PC before you get Tillerson confirmed, unless you really don't plan to have State do more than abet Tillerson's grift

Also getting a laff from drumpf bootlickers all giddy that the freed guy (a one-time translator?) said he liked drumpf, like you'd say ANYTHING else in his situation

Now they're openly defying the court orders. CBP officials were/are enforcing the EO despite 1) it's vagueness and lack of clarity and 2) the federal judge's stay order

When will rank and file republicans come out against this behavior? They are subverting and destroying long help democratic processes. As un-American a Govt as there has ever been

Youseff wrote:I'm guilty of being dismissive of his supporters. Nothing he is doing is unexpected. There was decades worth of evidence that he is a uniquely selfish, mean & awful person. I fault them for creating a hero out of a scumbag, an idol out of a person that clearly has no moral center. I'm open to hearing how I should be treating them, though. Not being sarcastic.

I don't disagree with any of this except for faulting his supporters for his creation.

Trump was created and sustained by desperation. The people who fervently supported him and changed parties to vote for him did so because, for all of his faults, he at least gave them some type of hope during an age of extreme anxiety for Middle and/or middle class America.

I can't blame desperate people for doing something desperate. I can blame those who allowed them to elect Donald Trump to the highest office in the country. Between the choice of candidate in HC and the arrogant, dismissive, pretentious attitude of many who thought a man like Trump could never be President, those people can and should be blamed.

I think there was an extreme amount of naivete, especially by those in my (millennial) generation who have grown up with four terms of Bush/Obama, that a racist, sexist, xenophobic man could occupy the presidency simply because of his morals. This same generation has somehow also made House of Cards a hit series. Mind boggling.

TL;DR: this could have been prevented by the same people who are now losing their collective shit about it, yet those people don't seem to want to claim responsibility for that.

Again, disclaimer, I am completely independent and did not vote for Trump. Just calling the hypocrisy to the table, as I have thankfully seen some Dems start to do also.

Principled conservatives who are patriots first and love their country are gonna stand by and watch this administration destroy our democracy

td11 wrote:Now they're openly defying the court orders. CBP officials were/are enforcing the EO despite 1) it's vagueness and lack of clarity and 2) the federal judge's stay order

When will rank and file republicans come out against this behavior? They are subverting and destroying long help democratic processes. As un-American a Govt as there has ever been

Where you seeing this TD?

td11 wrote:Principled conservatives who are patriots first and love their country are gonna stand by and watch this administration destroy our democracy

Right, but principled liberals also knew what they were getting with this administration and failed to prevent it before November.

It's not like Trump ran on xyz and is now doing abc. He's doing the same shit he said he would do from day one.

But we weren't supposed to take him literally

Iraq has retaliated fwiw. No Americans.get out, journalists.

drsmooth wrote:

td11 wrote:Now they're openly defying the court orders. CBP officials were/are enforcing the EO despite 1) it's vagueness and lack of clarity and 2) the federal judge's stay order

When will rank and file republicans come out against this behavior? They are subverting and destroying long help democratic processes. As un-American a Govt as there has ever been

Where you seeing this TD?

They issued a statement from DHS this morning saying EO will be enforced regardless of court orders

https://twitter.com/meakoopa/status/825631936827752449

Also KellyAnne went on CNN this morning and said sonething to the effect of, the judge's stay isn't relevant

PSUsarge wrote:

td11 wrote:Principled conservatives who are patriots first and love their country are gonna stand by and watch this administration destroy our democracy

Right, but principled liberals also knew what they were getting with this administration and failed to prevent it before November.

It's not like Trump ran on xyz and is now doing abc. He's doing the same shit he said he would do from day one.

Wasn't responding to you

Your point is extremely boring, btw

Their reasoning for having Bannon on NSC is he was once in the Navy. A lowish-level officer in the early 80s will bring the expertise needed to know when Hillary Clinton Parkinson's will kill her and how this will affect international incidents.

td11 wrote:They issued a statement from DHS this morning saying EO will be enforced regardless of court orders

https://twitter.com/meakoopa/status/825631936827752449

Also KellyAnne went on CNN this morning and said sonething to the effect of, the judge's stay isn't relevant

that's bravado intended to paper over the EO's stupidity. Kelly hasn't said they're overriding the judge's stay, and Conway's just a chirping imbecile - of COURSE the judge's stay is "relevant", you rancid twat

Sen Schumer said he talked to General Kelly and the court order WILL be complied with. We shall see.

Surprised there hasn't been more focus on the Christian exemption in this order