PIZZA is the New Orange

Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby phatj » Wed Jul 22, 2015 17:23:27

You can eat something else
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 13:49:16

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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 30, 2015 13:55:06

pizza in alaska? ok

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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Jul 30, 2015 14:03:41

In the past week, I've seen lists like this - the one built on TripAdvisor reviews, and the other based on Yelp reviews.

One of them had San Diego and Orlando in the top pizza cities. Either way, Yelp is noise, not information. TripAdvisor is indeed a good source to scout out where to eat (or stay) but hardly an indicator of top pizza cities.

Here's my view - kind of in order:

Top Tier:
New York
New Haven
San Francisco

Good Swing
Philly
Chicago

Honorable Mention
Boston
NOLA
Trenton (vicinity)
DC

By sheer volume of GREAT pizza, New York takes it by a large margin. Philly is closing the gap, though.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby mickbayne » Thu Jul 30, 2015 14:16:16

Marra's just ousted Francoluigi's as my favorite pizza in the new neighborhood (so far). Looking forward to trying Grace and Pat's next.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 14:23:19

TomatoPie wrote:In the past week, I've seen lists like this - the one built on TripAdvisor reviews, and the other based on Yelp reviews.

One of them had San Diego and Orlando in the top pizza cities. Either way, Yelp is noise, not information. TripAdvisor is indeed a good source to scout out where to eat (or stay) but hardly an indicator of top pizza cities.

Here's my view - kind of in order:

Top Tier:
New York
New Haven
San Francisco

Good Swing
Philly
Chicago

Honorable Mention
Boston
NOLA
Trenton (vicinity)
DC

By sheer volume of GREAT pizza, New York takes it by a large margin. Philly is closing the gap, though.


One of the major factors TripAdvisor used in choosing great pizza cities was the quantity of reviews of pizza restaurants in proportion to those of other restaurants. So I think a few of those cities sneak on there just because the other dining options are a lot more meager than Philadelphia's. Doesn't explain San francisco, though, I guess.

I still find Yelp useful even though, as you say, there is a lot of nonsense on there. A critical reader, and I'm sure you're one, can cut through that though in most cases and get some solid information in making a choice.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Jul 30, 2015 14:42:53

swishnicholson wrote:
I still find Yelp useful even though, as you say, there is a lot of nonsense on there. A critical reader, and I'm sure you're one, can cut through that though in most cases and get some solid information in making a choice.


TripAdvisor seems to draw more 'experienced' diners and travlers.

I also preferred UrbanSpoon to yelp, because it drew a smaller crowd but more serious foodies. Now it has been eaten by Zomato, and the jury is still out. Most Zomato reviewers seem to be in India.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby Youseff » Thu Jul 30, 2015 14:51:56

San Francisco has so much bad pizza.

& Philly has lots of good pizza but also huge swaths where all you can get is pizza from Greek people who don't know how to make pizza.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 15:16:06

TomatoPie wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
I still find Yelp useful even though, as you say, there is a lot of nonsense on there. A critical reader, and I'm sure you're one, can cut through that though in most cases and get some solid information in making a choice.


TripAdvisor seems to draw more 'experienced' diners and travlers.

I also preferred UrbanSpoon to yelp, because it drew a smaller crowd but more serious foodies. Now it has been eaten by Zomato, and the jury is still out. Most Zomato reviewers seem to be in India.


Oh, I agree, but Yelp is so much more active that you can't just discount it since sometimes it has the only substantial amount of reviews out there.

I chose Pizzeria Beddia totally at random for comparison, and TripAdvisor has two reviews posted. Yelp has 124.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Jul 30, 2015 15:48:19

swishnicholson wrote:
TomatoPie wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
I still find Yelp useful even though, as you say, there is a lot of nonsense on there. A critical reader, and I'm sure you're one, can cut through that though in most cases and get some solid information in making a choice.


TripAdvisor seems to draw more 'experienced' diners and travlers.

I also preferred UrbanSpoon to yelp, because it drew a smaller crowd but more serious foodies. Now it has been eaten by Zomato, and the jury is still out. Most Zomato reviewers seem to be in India.


Oh, I agree, but Yelp is so much more active that you can't just discount it since sometimes it has the only substantial amount of reviews out there.

I chose Pizzeria Beddia totally at random for comparison, and TripAdvisor has two reviews posted. Yelp has 124.


I checked it out - the Yelp reviews on Beddia are surprisingly helpful. I may need to revisit.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby The B1G Piece » Thu Jul 30, 2015 23:13:39

Phoenix is a disaster when it comes to pizza. Philadelphia blows them out of the water.

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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby TomatoPie » Fri Jul 31, 2015 09:03:30

The B1G Piece wrote:Phoenix is a disaster when it comes to pizza. Philadelphia blows them out of the water.


Philly sure has more quantity - but Phoenix has Pizzeria Bianco, its very own Beddia. And his brother opened Pane Bianco, where you can get the same pies without the wait.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jul 31, 2015 09:35:16

didnt think pizzeria bianco was all that wonderful tbh.

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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby The Dude » Fri Jul 31, 2015 09:38:00

that's bc you need your art spoonfed to you
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby SK790 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 07:23:16


Heh, who knew the garbage style pizza I was eating in Grand Forks, ND had a name. Fuck you, St. Louis style pizza. Who cuts a round pie into squares?
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby swishnicholson » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:24:39

SK790 wrote:Heh, who knew the garbage style pizza I was eating in Grand Forks, ND had a name. Fuck you, St. Louis style pizza. Who cuts a round pie into squares?


Huh, that's what I always think of as Pizza Hut style pizza. I see the company was founded in Wichita. I guess they didn't know any better, though that's not really an excuse.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:39:43

RapiDough opening today in West Chester. Moved from Collegeville. Looks like a promising Neapolitan joint.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby pacino » Mon Aug 17, 2015 21:04:13

A&M Pizza in Palmyra was really bad. Super greasy and flavorless. Bad combo. They did toast the crust nice.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Aug 17, 2015 21:22:31

pacino wrote:A&M Pizza in Palmyra was really bad. Super greasy and flavorless. Bad combo. They did toast the crust nice.


Speaking of that area, has anyone eaten at the District Bistro in Riverton lately? It used to be District611 when it had a liquor license and a different co-owner. Those are gone, but it still has a tremendous wood-fired pizza oven and used to make great Neapolitan pizza...

Oh, never mind. see it just closed this month for failure to pay taxes.
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Re: PIZZA is the New Orange

Postby Bucky » Mon Aug 17, 2015 21:53:32

new domino's opening in roxborough. can't wait!

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