z ipper wrote:Patrick said the images of Suspect No. 2 reacting to the first explosion provided “highly incriminating” evidence, “a lot more than the public knows.”

going to be interesting videos for the trial.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was thrown out of the mosque -- the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center -- about three months ago, after he stood up and shouted at the imam during a Friday prayer service, they said. The imam had held up slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. as an example of a man to emulate, recalled one worshiper who would give his name only as Muhammad.

Enraged, Tamerlan stood up and began shouting, Muhammad said.

“You cannot mention this guy because he’s not a Muslim!” Muhammad recalled Tamerlan shouting, shocking others in attendance.

“He’s crazy to me,” Muhammad said. “He had an anger inside.… I can’t explain what was in his mind.”

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Doll Is Mine wrote:

bury me wrote:I understand the relief people from Boston must feel, but why are they lining up and cheering like some Korean lynch mob. Im not sure I fully understand the methods used yesterday to capture the suspect but it seemed very, very extreme. I dunno, I hope i'm wrong on this.

I particularly didn't understand why there was gunfire (so much of it) when the suspect was laying in a boat, wounded and bleeding to death. I initially thought that maybe he had shot back but last night, MSNBC reported that the gunshots were all coming from police.

The media tried to cover a little for the cops by saying that they don't know if the suspect was wounded by the gunshots that day. Well, that's not true because the witness who called the FBI saw blood on the tarp of his boat and the suspect laying inside. It was clear that he was shot the night before and bleeding to death.

philliesphhan wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

bury me wrote:I understand the relief people from Boston must feel, but why are they lining up and cheering like some Korean lynch mob. Im not sure I fully understand the methods used yesterday to capture the suspect but it seemed very, very extreme. I dunno, I hope i'm wrong on this.

I particularly didn't understand why there was gunfire (so much of it) when the suspect was laying in a boat, wounded and bleeding to death. I initially thought that maybe he had shot back but last night, MSNBC reported that the gunshots were all coming from police.

The media tried to cover a little for the cops by saying that they don't know if the suspect was wounded by the gunshots that day. Well, that's not true because the witness who called the FBI saw blood on the tarp of his boat and the suspect laying inside. It was clear that he was shot the night before and bleeding to death.

Take with this an extreme grain of salt as I heard this secondhand, but they're not actually trying to shoot him when you hear all the shots. They fire an incredible amount of rounds at once to ensure the suspect takes cover, so the others can get a closer position.

phatj wrote:Go through a lot of ammo that way. Better than going through soldiers/cops though.

cartersDad26 wrote:Reading this thread has truly been the best way to follow this event. Yay guys.

z ipper wrote:Patrick said the images of Suspect No. 2 reacting to the first explosion provided “highly incriminating” evidence, “a lot more than the public knows.”

going to be interesting videos for the trial.

Monkeyboy wrote:

z ipper wrote:Patrick said the images of Suspect No. 2 reacting to the first explosion provided “highly incriminating” evidence, “a lot more than the public knows.”

going to be interesting videos for the trial.

I'm really curious to see this. Did he do a fist pump or start high-fiving people or what? Or maybe he's the only one who didn't poop their pants when the thing went off.

Luzinski's Gut wrote:Depends. That's where fire discipline comes into play. It's not a scene of chaos - you are trained to shoot efficiently and intelligently. You don't want to burn through you ammo quickly because you don't know when you are going to be resupplied.

You just want to keep a sustained rate of fire directed in the general direction of where you know/think the enemy is. It's not about going to the three round burst or full auto selector switch...you just want to shoot at a steady pace...the individual shooter isn't really what's important, it's the orchestration of the entire team firing and laying down that base of fire.

phatj wrote:Go through a lot of ammo that way. Better than going through soldiers/cops though.

jerseyhoya wrote:Turn to Religion Split Bomb Suspects' Home - Good piece of reporting from the WSJ. Lots of quotes from people close to the bombers.

swishnicholson wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Turn to Religion Split Bomb Suspects' Home - Good piece of reporting from the WSJ. Lots of quotes from people close to the bombers.

Well, I have to disagree. The only new quotes are from the mother, who apparently believes her son is innocent, yet is never quoted to that effect and instead has her words inserted where they'll support the writer's hypothesis. Other than it's a rehash of quotes from people acquainted with them recently but who didn't really know them, or relatives who hadn't been close in years.

I mean, the reporter may not be far off the mark. But I think these stories are pretty worthless until the words of the suspects can be added to them, whether in trial or in print. Other than that it just comes across as amateur psychology, and even pro psychology is often pretty inaccurate especially when the subject is unknown to them.