Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Dec 18, 2012 14:52:13

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pacino wrote:anonymous put out their home addresses. that is too far, in my view.

yes, i'm serious, or i wouldn't have posted that. i don't think this is the way to 'attack' them. the way to attack them is to never mention them. ever. or, to simply joke protest them as has been successfully done before, which is far more cathartic than some entirely negative action which heals nothing.

Why is that too far? They've made a conscious choice to engage in reprehensible, yet legal, behavior. They voluntarily travel from their hole in Kansas to badger victims who unwillingly became a national news story. Why should they remain anonymous while the victims and their loved ones cannot? We're not talking about their bank accounts or social security numbers here... this is public information.

They are fully permitted to exercise their First Amendment rights. Yet there can (and should be) consequences for the irresponsible use of those rights. No one should engage them violently, but perhaps a large group of people could legally picket outside of their houses. Perhaps they should receive telephone calls from people who disagree with their view of the world at all hours of the day. Perhaps they should receive stacks of (non-threatening) hate mail.


Or perhaps someone can bash their faces in.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby pacino » Tue Dec 18, 2012 14:52:22

Failing to see how this is different than blasting an abortion doctor's publicly known info. It is inciting non-civil strikeback, and i'm not a fan of that. I'm not saying they can't, but they shouldn't. We are literally talking about this because a crazy guy did something crazy, and now more crazies are protesting for a crazy reason, and we dont expect further crazies to see their addresses and do other crazy things?
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby The Dude » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:00:55

No, we shouldn't expect this to happen. And, since it is, there is a lot of hell to pay
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:05:51

I think when you cross that line of indecency, like the Westboro lunatics have, you deserve to get your ass whooped.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Bucky » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:08:54

yeah, but therein lies the rub. Where is that line? 25% of people may think that performing abortions crosses that line. 40% may think that being gay is across that line.

Although I do think these people need an ass whoopin

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Shore » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:10:30

There's no slippery slope here. The Westboro assholes deserve whatever comes their way. Collectively, individually, whatever.

Fuck 'em all.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:11:57

Bucky wrote:yeah, but therein lies the rub. Where is that line? 25% of people may think that performing abortions crosses that line. 40% may think that being gay is across that line.

Although I do think these people need an ass whoopin


Out of curiosity, what percentage of people do you think would condone the Westboro freaks getting stoned to death?

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Bucky » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:15:14

I knew I shouldn't have put any numbers there, because I really just picked them out of a hat with no thought. Getting stoned to death, though? I'd say .0125 percent (one-eighth of one percent).

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Shore » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:17:39

Bucky wrote:I knew I shouldn't have put any numbers there, because I really just picked them out of a hat with no thought. Getting stoned to death, though? I'd say .0125 percent (one-eighth of one percent).


Gotta find 799 "no's" to balance me out :)

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby td11 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:19:51

unfortunately, multiple members of the family are lawyers and they've won a few cases when people attacked/"violated" their first amendment rights. also they won that supreme court case
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Dec 18, 2012 15:42:19

pacino wrote:Failing to see how this is different than blasting an abortion doctor's publicly known info. It is inciting non-civil strikeback, and i'm not a fan of that. I'm not saying they can't, but they shouldn't. We are literally talking about this because a crazy guy did something crazy, and now more crazies are protesting for a crazy reason, and we dont expect further crazies to see their addresses and do other crazy things?

The abortion doctor (hate that term but whatever) is performing a legal medical procedure in a private manner. Westboro is doing this SOLELY to draw public attention to themselves and their insane causes.

There's a world of difference there.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby philliesphhan » Tue Dec 18, 2012 16:09:16

td11 wrote:unfortunately, multiple members of the family are lawyers and they've won a few cases when people attacked/"violated" their first amendment rights. also they won that supreme court case


Yeah, actually beating them up is a big mistake

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Woody » Tue Dec 18, 2012 18:54:00

It was pretty upsetting hearing my 4 year old tell me how they practiced "all the boys and girls hide in the bathroom with the lights out and be quiet" at his daycare today. I know it left an impression because he brought it up, too. So fucking nuts

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Slowhand » Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:30:16

"I will miss your perpetual smile, the twinkle in your dark blue eyes, framed by eyelashes that would be the envy of any lady in this room," Noah's mother, Veronique Pozner, said at the service, according to remarks the family provided to The Associated Press. Both services were closed to the news media.

"Most of all, I will miss your visions of your future," she said. "You wanted to be a doctor, a soldier, a taco factory manager. It was your favorite food, and no doubt you wanted to ensure that the world kept producing tacos."

She closed by saying: "Momma loves you, little man."


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I'm not sure I have it in me to read eulogies of the others.
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:34:21

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:40:57

Suggestions that his mom was trying to get him committed to a psychiatric facility, and that may have been what set him off.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Dec 18, 2012 19:46:30

May be true but that is dangerous reporting. Here is the opinion of some guy who isn't a mental professional in any sense.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby pacino » Wed Dec 19, 2012 00:01:21

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
pacino wrote:Failing to see how this is different than blasting an abortion doctor's publicly known info. It is inciting non-civil strikeback, and i'm not a fan of that. I'm not saying they can't, but they shouldn't. We are literally talking about this because a crazy guy did something crazy, and now more crazies are protesting for a crazy reason, and we dont expect further crazies to see their addresses and do other crazy things?

The abortion doctor (hate that term but whatever) is performing a legal medical procedure in a private manner. Westboro is doing this SOLELY to draw public attention to themselves and their insane causes.

There's a world of difference there.

not really seeing what is illegal in what westboro is doing
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Dec 19, 2012 00:07:07

jerseyhoya wrote:Suggestions that his mom was trying to get him committed to a psychiatric facility, and that may have been what set him off.


The dad of the dude who said that says its false. Way to go fox!!

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Dec 19, 2012 00:34:36

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Suggestions that his mom was trying to get him committed to a psychiatric facility, and that may have been what set him off.

The dad of the dude who said that says its false. Way to go fox!!

He didn't say it was false, just hearsay. And the story is backed up by the law enforcement source.

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