pacino wrote:

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:

pacino wrote:Failing to see how this is different than blasting an abortion doctor's publicly known info. It is inciting non-civil strikeback, and i'm not a fan of that. I'm not saying they can't, but they shouldn't. We are literally talking about this because a crazy guy did something crazy, and now more crazies are protesting for a crazy reason, and we dont expect further crazies to see their addresses and do other crazy things?

The abortion doctor (hate that term but whatever) is performing a legal medical procedure in a private manner. Westboro is doing this SOLELY to draw public attention to themselves and their insane causes.

There's a world of difference there.

not really seeing what is illegal in what westboro is doing

jerseyhoya wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Suggestions that his mom was trying to get him committed to a psychiatric facility, and that may have been what set him off.

The dad of the dude who said that says its false. Way to go fox!!

He didn't say it was false, just hearsay. And the story is backed up by the law enforcement source.

pacino wrote:so, basically the entire argument boils down to 'they were asking for it'.

There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

Parents of sick children need to be realistic about them. I know at least two sets of fine and devoted parents who have had the misfortune to raise sons who were troubled for genetic reasons beyond anyone’s control. Either of those boys could have been an Adam Lanza. You simply can’t give a non-working, non-school-enrolled 20-year-old man free range of your home, much less your cache of weapons. You have to set boundaries. You have to say, “You can’t live here anymore — you’re an adult, and it’s time for you to be a man. We’ll give you all the support you need, but we won’t be enablers.” Unfortunately, the idea of being an “adult” and a “man” once one has reached physical maturity seems to have faded out of our coddling culture.

phdave wrote:Too many women and touchy feelyness are to blame.

There was not a single adult male on the school premises when the shooting occurred. In this school of 450 students, a sizeable number of whom were undoubtedly 11- and 12-year-old boys (it was a K–6 school), all the personnel — the teachers, the principal, the assistant principal, the school psychologist, the “reading specialist” — were female. There didn’t even seem to be a male janitor to heave his bucket at Adam Lanza’s knees. Women and small children are sitting ducks for mass-murderers. The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

Doll Is Mine wrote:Remember when Newt Gingrich suggested that we pay the kids to be janitors?

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)