Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby SK790 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 09:57:27

can't believe you pussies got upset at a buncha kids getting innocently gunned down.
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby drsmooth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:12:38

JUburton wrote:
Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)
well congratulations on saying one of the dumbest things about this. an impressive feat, indeed.


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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:39:38

Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)

My wife worked on the task force that formulated Virginia's legislative/regulatory response to the school shootings in Jonesboro. She watched Columbine unfold from the Office of the Secretary of Public Safety and was privy to confidential details that were not released for nearly a decade. She's still upset by this shooting.

Congrats on saying the dumbest thing in recent history on this board.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby td11 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:57:07

When I was15 i had made a post on pp saying that a player was good based on batting average and like 5 ppl congratulated me for making the dumbest post in board history
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Soren » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:58:59

Woody wrote:
Warszawa wrote:i think people who are upset about this shooting tend to be niave about the state of the world (and our existence)


Jesus christ man, you need a hug
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:15:45

td11 wrote:When I was15 i had made a post on pp saying that a player was good based on batting average and like 5 ppl congratulated me for making the dumbest post in board history

it took this long, but you've gotten supplanted
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:17:54

td11 wrote:When I was15 i had made a post on pp saying that a player was good based on batting average and like 5 ppl congratulated me for making the dumbest post in board history

Take it to the posts you still think about thread.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby drsmooth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:04:42



I'm ok with it for VA* provided the law requires that the only practice targets The Milk Money Militia are ALLOWED to fire at, ever, bear a picture of his stupid face, and that the used targets be available to anyone who wants a souvenir, or a helpful prop for a campaign ad, or whatever




*also because happily I do not live in that godforsaken state. Sorry to any VA residents
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby 21McBride » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:37:22

Would make for more interesting in-service days than we're accustomed to but as a 15+-yr. teacher I have to say this is the worst idea ever. We have a security chief at our school, a retired chief of police in the area, who is unarmed and effective. He knows most of the kids and has established an excellent rapport with them and his connections to local police have made them always available.

I had to swallow my anger at a party Sat. night when a well-meaning redneck asked me if that maniac would've been able to kill so many people if all of them teachers was armed like him.
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Dec 20, 2012 13:49:21

How man teachers would actually WANT to carry a loaded gun in school? I can't picture any of my son's north east raised liberal 20-something female teachers packing heat.

If teachers were required or encouraged to be armed, would that attract a different sort if person to be a teacher, possibly having undesired effects on the quality of education our children recieve?

The only person I would want to have a gun in a school is a uniformed police officer, someone who's job it is to be trained in their proper use and saftey.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby bury me » Thu Dec 20, 2012 14:23:51

the tests im sure teachers with guns would have to go through routinely would be an incredible problem, especially at their pay. it's one of the stupidest things i've ever heard suggested. these people aren't military, they're payed to teach and hopefully guide children; not pack weapons and be given a free reign to shoot whenever they think they're being threatened

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Dec 20, 2012 14:28:29

and i think this has been covered but what happens when they accidentally shoot someone? its fucking absurd.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby drsmooth » Thu Dec 20, 2012 14:55:52

21McBride wrote:Would make for more interesting in-service days than we're accustomed to but as a 15+-yr. teacher I have to say this is the worst idea ever. We have a security chief at our school, a retired chief of police in the area, who is unarmed and effective. He knows most of the kids and has established an excellent rapport with them and his connections to local police have made them always available.

I had to swallow my anger at a party Sat. night when a well-meaning redneck asked me if that maniac would've been able to kill so many people if all of them teachers was armed like him.


McBride are you in VA? If so, just want to confirm I was merely trying be every bit as insane as Cuccinelli in my post upthread.

My guess is your fellow partygoer's question was rhetorical; he "knows" the good guys would have triumphed had they only been outfitted with his sidearms.

I still vividly recall a poor slob of a 5th grade math teacher who about 1 month into the school year essentially abandoned teaching to regale us with stories of all the fights he had been in; throwing guys through plate glass windows, bouncing their heads off sidewalks, kicking knives out of their hands, etc. They started out as brief asides & grew into 20 minute reveries, ultimately including vague promises to bring in and show us his collection of switchblades at some later 'special' date.

This is a guy about 5'6", 40# overweight, coke-bottle glasses, white socks with wingtips, etc

He mysteriously disappeared after about 2 weeks of this stuff, & we later learned he'd been institutionalized.

I know that people with the kind of issues he faced are if anything probably under-represented in the teaching ranks, but I'm pretty sure I would not want firearms pressed on any of that small number of the profession.
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 20, 2012 15:00:34

Bill McNeal wrote:How man teachers would actually WANT to carry a loaded gun in school? I can't picture any of my son's north east raised liberal 20-something female teachers packing heat.

If teachers were required or encouraged to be armed, would that attract a different sort if person to be a teacher, possibly having undesired effects on the quality of education our children recieve?

The only person I would want to have a gun in a school is a uniformed police officer, someone who's job it is to be trained in their proper use and saftey.

one of the qualifiers i would have is if you volunteer to carry a gun while you teach, you get fired from being a teacher because you're freaking weird. :D
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 20, 2012 15:01:17

drsmooth wrote:
21McBride wrote:Would make for more interesting in-service days than we're accustomed to but as a 15+-yr. teacher I have to say this is the worst idea ever. We have a security chief at our school, a retired chief of police in the area, who is unarmed and effective. He knows most of the kids and has established an excellent rapport with them and his connections to local police have made them always available.

I had to swallow my anger at a party Sat. night when a well-meaning redneck asked me if that maniac would've been able to kill so many people if all of them teachers was armed like him.


McBride are you in VA? If so, just want to confirm I was merely trying be every bit as insane as Cuccinelli in my post upthread.

My guess is your fellow partygoer's question was rhetorical; he "knows" the good guys would have triumphed had they only been outfitted with his sidearms.

I still vividly recall a poor slob of a 5th grade math teacher who about 1 month into the school year essentially abandoned teaching to regale us with stories of all the fights he had been in; throwing guys through plate glass windows, bouncing their heads off sidewalks, kicking knives out of their hands, etc. They started out as brief asides & grew into 20 minute reveries, ultimately including vague promises to bring in and show us his collection of switchblades at some later 'special' date.

This is a guy about 5'6", 40# overweight, coke-bottle glasses, white socks with wingtips, etc

He mysteriously disappeared after about 2 weeks of this stuff, & we later learned he'd been institutionalized.

I know that people with the kind of issues he faced are if anything probably under-represented in the teaching ranks, but I'm pretty sure I would not want firearms pressed on any of that small number of the profession.

I believe he's in central PA. RichmondPhils is in VA.
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby 21McBride » Thu Dec 20, 2012 15:03:09

PA, but you never know with our gov.
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Dec 20, 2012 15:33:17

pacino wrote:I believe he's in central PA. RichmondPhils is in VA.

Yup. Whee.

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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby phdave » Thu Dec 20, 2012 16:26:30

CalvinBall wrote:and i think this has been covered but what happens when they accidentally shoot someone? its fucking absurd.


Accidentally? How about when teachers start shooting their students on purpose and then claiming they were attacked and were defending themselves?
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Re: Sandy Hook Elementary, Newtown, CT Shooting

Postby Soren » Thu Dec 20, 2012 16:41:42

phdave wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:and i think this has been covered but what happens when they accidentally shoot someone? its #$!&@ absurd.


Accidentally? How about when teachers start shooting their students on purpose and then claiming they were attacked and were defending themselves?


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