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Postby kimbatiste » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:20:00

S2D wrote:
philliesphhan wrote:
S2D wrote:I've officially moved from indifference to being totally pissed about this rumored deal.


I think you need to wait and find out who we actually traded. No team has confirmed anything. It's just a bunch of douchebags on TV guessing.


If Lee is traded and we give up nothing, it's a lateral move for next year and a good one for 2011. If Lee is traded and we still give up anything, with his salary and production last season, it's a terrible deal. Toronto has no leverage at all here.


No, it would not be a lateral move because Halladay is better than Lee.

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Postby lowcountry » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:20:40

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.


sign me the fark up.

Now.

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Postby laf837 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:20:40

S2D wrote:
philliesphhan wrote:
S2D wrote:I've officially moved from indifference to being totally pissed about this rumored deal.


I think you need to wait and find out who we actually traded. No team has confirmed anything. It's just a bunch of douchebags on TV guessing.


If Lee is traded and we give up nothing, it's a lateral move for next year and a good one for 2011. If Lee is traded and we still give up anything, with his salary and production last season, it's a terrible deal. Toronto has no leverage at all here.


I don't think it will be a terrible deal but point taken. Who are we competing against for his services, exactly?
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Postby philliesphhan » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:20:57

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.


I LIKE THIS RUMOR MUCH BETTER :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby VFB » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:21:12

Blanton is a Mariners?

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Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:21:15

Trent Steele wrote:
VFB wrote:DNL guy thinks it Brown, Drabek, Cliff and a 4+ year extension for 18-22M per

ouch


is it mark kram?


You warned us good about him on Saturday night :lol:

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Postby dajafi » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:21:17

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.


Now THAT I can get behind...

Ms beat writer on ESPNews: "I believe it is Cliff Lee right now"

Prospects going back the other way--Aumont and Gilles (sp?). Not sure if to Phils or Jays. Sean Kelly, Brandon Morrow "might come up"

Has not heard anything about Happ :x
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Postby mcare89 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:21:33

ESPN950 some guy who i don't know who talked to another guy who i don't know says it might actually be Blanton to Seattle rather than Lee.

I don't believe it, but I'm so in.

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Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:21:47

philliesphhan wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.


I LIKE THIS RUMOR MUCH BETTER :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Blanton, Happ to Seattle, Seattle prospects to Toronto, Brown to Toronto, Doc to Philly?
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Postby S2D » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:22:08

Trent Steele wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
VFB wrote:DNL guy thinks it Brown, Drabek, Cliff and a 4+ year extension for 18-22M per

ouch


That would assume the Phils get zero back for Lee. If they're going to trade Drabek & Brown, they don't need to trade Lee (assuming they get $$ back from the Jays and get Doc to defer some 2010 salary).

Look, nobody knows nothing for sure right now. But I guarantee if they trade Lee, they're not going to send all the prospects they get from Seattle plus Drabek plus Brown to the Jays. Other than finances, the reason to send Lee to the M's is so you don't have to give up both Drabek and Brown.


If it's Drabek and Brown, it's also Blanton, not Lee


Given Toronto's situation, Drabek and Brown should be enough for them to pay Halladay's salary, effectively letting us keep Joe. Again, they're the ones who have to trade him.

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Postby HillMD » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:22:09

td11 wrote:this was literally one of the worst times ever to wake up from a nap and casually check out what's happening on bsg

I'm telling you.

I come home from work and log onto my desktop and check out the site, thinking maybe Matt Capps is close to signing somewhere.

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Postby Bakestar » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:22:24

Isn't this fun guys?!
Foreskin stupid

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Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:23:19

Really don't they know grad school apps are due tomorrow

Guys come on either wrap this up or tell me it's not happening

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Postby VFB » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:23:23

Does Seattle have a SS/3B prospect?

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Postby mcare89 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:23:35

HillMD wrote:
td11 wrote:this was literally one of the worst times ever to wake up from a nap and casually check out what's happening on bsg

I'm telling you.

I come home from work and log onto my desktop and check out the site, thinking maybe Matt Capps is close to signing somewhere.

I didn't know anything was happening until I got an angry "WE'RE TRADING LEE FOR HALLADAY WTF?" text from my brother. Needless to say, I bolted here.

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Postby FTN » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:23:47

see, thats better

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Postby Bob Loblaw » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:23:50

lowcountry wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.


sign me the fark up.

Now.


And we keep Cliff?

Ummm.... yeah. I can go for that.
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Postby mcare89 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:24:13

jerseyhoya wrote:Really don't they know grad school apps are due tomorrow

Guys come on either wrap this up or tell me it's not happening

Agreed, I've got finals to study for, the only worse day this could happen on would be Wednesday.

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Postby Rev_Beezer » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:24:52

this is insane.

this is also the first time my wife and I have fought over whether a deal was a good one or not.
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Postby Didn't I? » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:24:55

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.


Lock thread. I want that one.
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