It's Done? Roy Halladay traded to Phils, Lee (?) to Mariners

Postby FTN » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:15:10

Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee

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Postby philliesphhan » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:15:38

mcare89 wrote:
VFB wrote:DNL guy thinks it Brown, Drabek, Cliff and a 4+ year extension for 18-22M per

ouch

Good god, that would be a raping.


he said "I think they'd consider trading Drabek or Brown." I definitely didn't hear we're trading both.
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Postby Didn't I? » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:15:51

S2D wrote:I've officially moved from indifference to being totally pissed about this rumored deal.


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Postby philliesphhan » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:16:18

FTN wrote:Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee


That would be sweet
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:16:36

FTN wrote:Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee


No chance they are both going, under any circumstances.
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:16:53

philliesphhan wrote:
FTN wrote:Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee


That would be sweet


No it wouldn't.
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Postby dajafi » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:17:04

Zo (ESPNews): very complicated deal, not finalized yet, waiting on extension for Halladay.

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Postby Didn't I? » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:17:07

Maybe Rube's master plan was to float the Lee rumor so that when he gives up Drabek + Brown, people are ecstatic.
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Postby CFP » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:17:10

FTN wrote:Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee


Right. Everyone needs to just calm down. I don't know what else to say. Don't get angry about rumors from guys named wrider34 and thinking that because Brown and Drabek are being rumored it means Lee is gone too.

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Postby 1 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:17:13

eagles talk now. bahaha.
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Postby Woody » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:17:16

FTN wrote:Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee


that would represent about two-three times what we wouldn't give up for him in teh summer :lol:
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Postby kimbatiste » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:17:55

My only fear is Amaro's infatuation with Roy means getting clouded and giving up too much. That said, who knows. He's (pleasantly) surprised us before.

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Postby S2D » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:18:05

philliesphhan wrote:
S2D wrote:I've officially moved from indifference to being totally pissed about this rumored deal.


I think you need to wait and find out who we actually traded. No team has confirmed anything. It's just a bunch of douchebags on TV guessing.


If Lee is traded and we give up nothing, it's a lateral move for next year and a good one for 2011. If Lee is traded and we still give up anything, with his salary and production last season, it's a terrible deal. Toronto has no leverage at all here.

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Postby JFLNYC » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:18:22

VFB wrote:DNL guy thinks it Brown, Drabek, Cliff and a 4+ year extension for 18-22M per

ouch


That would assume the Phils get zero back for Lee. If they're going to trade Drabek & Brown, they don't need to trade Lee (assuming they get $$ back from the Jays and get Doc to defer some 2010 salary).

Look, nobody knows nothing for sure right now. But I guarantee if they trade Lee, they're not going to send all the prospects they get from Seattle plus Drabek plus Brown to the Jays. Other than finances, the reason to send Lee to the M's is so you don't have to give up both Drabek and Brown.
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Postby td11 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:18:48

this was literally one of the worst times ever to wake up from a nap and casually check out what's happening on bsg
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Postby philliesphhan » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:18:52

mozartpc27 wrote:
philliesphhan wrote:
FTN wrote:Again, there is no way we're giving up both Drabek and Brown, plus Lee, and only getting back Halladay and some nothing reliever. No chance.

If Drabek and Brown are in the deal, part of me thinks we're keeping Lee


That would be sweet


No it wouldn't.


2010 would have all time best ever Phillies rotation. What's the bad part?
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Postby HillMD » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:19:26

Didn't I? wrote:Maybe Rube's master plan was to float the Lee rumor so that when he gives up Drabek + Brown, people are ecstatic.

Or to scare Lee into taking a discount so that he doesn't have to live in the constantly rainy and damp city of Seattle.

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Postby Trent Steele » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:19:30

JFLNYC wrote:
VFB wrote:DNL guy thinks it Brown, Drabek, Cliff and a 4+ year extension for 18-22M per

ouch


That would assume the Phils get zero back for Lee. If they're going to trade Drabek & Brown, they don't need to trade Lee (assuming they get $$ back from the Jays and get Doc to defer some 2010 salary).

Look, nobody knows nothing for sure right now. But I guarantee if they trade Lee, they're not going to send all the prospects they get from Seattle plus Drabek plus Brown to the Jays. Other than finances, the reason to send Lee to the M's is so you don't have to give up both Drabek and Brown.


If it's Drabek and Brown, it's also Blanton, not Lee
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Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:19:35

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au40aXQSjDO10lUygFvTKLE5nYcB?slug=ap-phillies-bluejays-halladay&prov=ap&type=lgns

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—A person with knowledge of the situation says Toronto pitcher Roy Halladay(notes) is in Philadelphia to take a physical for the Phillies, a necessary step before the teams finalize a trade.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams had not made any announcement.

Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ(notes), Joe Blanton(notes) and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.
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Postby Woody » Mon Dec 14, 2009 18:19:56

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