Halladay VII: Rock out with your Doc out

by **cshort** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:43:43

lowcountry wrote:20 minutes to omgonoesJPsdeadline.

We'll see how serious he is. Rule # 1 - never publicly set a deadline you don't plan to keep.

by **TenuredVulture** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:45:19

I don't see how Rube is embarrassing anyone. Rube hasn't said anything, it's Ricciardi who is embarrassing himself. Sometimes, you can't make a deal because you're dealing with someone who completely overestimates his leverage. See Kyle Lohse.

We don't know that the reasonable deal is there--Ricciardi may be asking for more than Drabek, Happ, and Brown.

by **702** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:45:37

lowcountry wrote:20 minutes to omgonoesJPsdeadline.

I still have 3 hours till that deadline? :wink:

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:46:12

cshort wrote:
lowcountry wrote:20 minutes to omgonoesJPsdeadline.

We'll see how serious he is. Rule # 1 - never publicly set a deadline you don't plan to keep.

IIRC he backed off that deadline days ago.

by **Trent Steele** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:46:37

ek wrote:salisbury

n addition to the Phils, Ricciardi is talking with several other teams, including the Boston Red Sox. A report on Tuesday said the Red Sox had offered pitchers Clay Buchholz and Michael Bowden and outfield prospect Ryan Westmoreland for Halladay. A person with knowledge of the offer shot down the report. However, the person indicated that Boston was ready to put Buchholz in play. That could adversely affect the Phillies, because Blue Jays sources say they favor Buchholz over any of the Phillies pitchers who have been discussed.

You can all keep talking about how this is BS and make cool-guy funnies about blowing the Red Sox hahahhahha, but there are multiple people reporting they will deal Bucholz for Halladay. If its true, its over. Stop being idiots

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:48:09

FTN wrote:Ive said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating. I didnt like the Red Sox for the longest time. I hated the bandwagonesque feel of their fan base, the Gammons thing, and everything else. But living in Boston (and having a gf who is a Sox fan) has kind of changed me. Its completely different here in Boston I think. Fenway Park is amazing in every way. They have an awesome team. I'm genuinely jealous of their front office operation. Their owner isn't meddlesome, and in fact, seems like a pretty decent guy. They basically do everything right as an organization. The bandwagon fans still suck, but thats the case with every team. But being here in Boston has really changed the way I look at the team.

I've been to Fenway. It has a nice baseball atmosphere, granted. I've been to Boston, on numerous occasions. Sure, everyone loves the Sox. I guess if that's your thing, it's good.

None of this changes my feeling, however. I don't care if their owner seems cool, or if their ballpark is nice, or their organization is well-run. The sense of entitlement is the irritating thing, and they've developed it fast, and in bounteous excess.

FUCK THE RED SOX!!!!!!!!!

by **cshort** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:48:28

JFLNYC wrote:
cshort wrote:
lowcountry wrote:20 minutes to omgonoesJPsdeadline.

We'll see how serious he is. Rule # 1 - never publicly set a deadline you don't plan to keep.

IIRC he backed off that deadline days ago.

I thought he said only if things were progressing. So far he claims he hasn't been motivated.

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:49:16

If the rumor is true, it looks very bad, but all may not be lost. If Riccardi has any sense, he'll come back to the Phils one last time. But, to get it done then, Rube's going to have eat a lot of crow and probably offer more than Riccardi originally asked for.

by **The Savior** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:50:08

Putting Buccholz in play and putting Buchholz in play for Halladay are two different things.

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:50:14

cshort wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
cshort wrote:
lowcountry wrote:20 minutes to omgonoesJPsdeadline.

We'll see how serious he is. Rule # 1 - never publicly set a deadline you don't plan to keep.

IIRC he backed off that deadline days ago.

I thought he said only if things were progressing. So far he claims he hasn't been motivated.

You may be right. That sounds familiar. But I guess the point is that he left himself some wiggle room.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:51:46

JFLNYC wrote:
cshort wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
cshort wrote:
lowcountry wrote:20 minutes to omgonoesJPsdeadline.

We'll see how serious he is. Rule # 1 - never publicly set a deadline you don't plan to keep.

IIRC he backed off that deadline days ago.

I thought he said only if things were progressing. So far he claims he hasn't been motivated.

You may be right. That sounds familiar. But I guess the point is that he left himself some wiggle room.

That deadline is bull-shit and everyone knows it.

by **WilliamC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:52:22

JFLNYC wrote:If the rumor is true, it looks very bad, but all may not be lost. If Riccardi has any sense, he'll come back to the Phils one last time. But, to get it done then, Rube's going to have eat a lot of crow and probably offer more than Riccardi originally asked for.

Then if I'm Amaro it's a no. We don't NEED this. We need another solid pitcher. This is a luxury move, not a move of necessity.

There are other ways to better this team without letting this prick get the best of us. Screw him and his little dog too. I hope he gets hit by a train after his ass gets fired.

by **The Savior** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:54:20

FTN wrote:Ive said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating. I didnt like the Red Sox for the longest time. I hated the bandwagonesque feel of their fan base, the Gammons thing, and everything else. But living in Boston (and having a gf who is a Sox fan) has kind of changed me. Its completely different here in Boston I think. Fenway Park is amazing in every way. They have an awesome team. I'm genuinely jealous of their front office operation. Their owner isn't meddlesome, and in fact, seems like a pretty decent guy. They basically do everything right as an organization. The bandwagon fans still suck, but thats the case with every team. But being here in Boston has really changed the way I look at the team.

They are the best run team in baseball. And they carry themselves like that. Thus, I dislike them.

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:54:26

WilliamC wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:If the rumor is true, it looks very bad, but all may not be lost. If Riccardi has any sense, he'll come back to the Phils one last time. But, to get it done then, Rube's going to have eat a lot of crow and probably offer more than Riccardi originally asked for.

Then if I'm Amaro it's a no. We don't NEED this. We need another solid pitcher. This is a luxury move, not a move of necessity.

There are other ways to better this team without letting this prick get the best of us. Screw him and his little dog too. I hope he gets hit by a train after his ass gets fired.

I see you've been attending the Omar Minaya School of Charm.

by **cshort** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:55:17

WilliamC wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:If the rumor is true, it looks very bad, but all may not be lost. If Riccardi has any sense, he'll come back to the Phils one last time. But, to get it done then, Rube's going to have eat a lot of crow and probably offer more than Riccardi originally asked for.

Then if I'm Amaro it's a no. We don't NEED this. We need another solid pitcher. This is a luxury move, not a move of necessity.

There are other ways to better this team without letting this prick get the best of us. Screw him and his little dog too. I hope he gets hit by a train after his ass gets fired.

I agree. If the Buchholz thing is true, then we're probably not in a position to match it, and would be better off going after Lee. He'd be a huge add to the rotation, a major factor in the playoffs, and wouldn't cost us as much in either payroll or prospects.

by **HillMD** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:56:45

WilliamC wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:If the rumor is true, it looks very bad, but all may not be lost. If Riccardi has any sense, he'll come back to the Phils one last time. But, to get it done then, Rube's going to have eat a lot of crow and probably offer more than Riccardi originally asked for.

I hope he gets hit by a train after his ass gets fired.

Where's almighty FTN to come call you out on that? :lol:

by **Shore** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:57:25

Halladay should compare the teams, and after he looks at RF "Hmmm.... JD Drew, or Jayson Werth", call JPR and say "only the Phillies."

by **Bill McNeal** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 23:58:24

The Savior wrote:
FTN wrote:Ive said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating. I didnt like the Red Sox for the longest time. I hated the bandwagonesque feel of their fan base, the Gammons thing, and everything else. But living in Boston (and having a gf who is a Sox fan) has kind of changed me. Its completely different here in Boston I think. Fenway Park is amazing in every way. They have an awesome team. I'm genuinely jealous of their front office operation. Their owner isn't meddlesome, and in fact, seems like a pretty decent guy. They basically do everything right as an organization. The bandwagon fans still suck, but thats the case with every team. But being here in Boston has really changed the way I look at the team.

They are the best run team in baseball. And they carry themselves like that. Thus, I dislike them.

Why? If you are the best, why not act like it? I can't stand the red sox band wagon fans either, but they do their stuff right, gotta respect that IMO.

by **lowcountry** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 00:00:56

omgonoesDEADLINEomgones!!!!!!!!!!eleven!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

/yes, I know

by **Ace Rothstein** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 00:02:12

lowcountry wrote:omgonoesDEADLINEomgones!!!!!!!!!!eleven!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

/yes, I know

oh noes, did the internets explode?

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