Bucky wrote:smooth, you'll have to speak to my better half about my portion of the contribution

drsmooth wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

drsmooth wrote:Not the off-topic economics thread, but if anyone is looking for expressions of the concept behavioral economists refer to as loss aversion - a tendency most of them claim is utterly hardwired into the mammalian information processing apparatus - well, you've come to the right place.

For those interested, I'm taking up a testicle collection in support of the acquire Halladay campaign. We're only asking for one.

Right, because a difference of opinion means someone is without balls. That makes sense. There's a logical argument for both sides. If I was without balls, I would have been against all the other trades I suggested or hoped would happen over the years. But never let common sense stand in the way of a good insult, I guess.

You have a persecution complex or something, because that post of mine did not refer to you specifically, and frankly I don't recall reading any of your posts here until this one.

How you read an insult into a placid observation about a nascent field of study concerning human decisionmaking behavior is quite beyond me.

A Blue Jays official involved in the Roy Halladay discussions told The Post that both New York teams are not serious pursuers of the ace right-hander.

The official confirmed what several Yankee executives already had told the Post: That since an initial phone conversation about two weeks ago between Brian Cashman and his Blue Jays counterpart J.P. Ricciardi to let the Yankees know that Halladay is available there have been no further discussions. Yankees executives have told the Post that the finances in adding Halladay don't work, especially if it means giving up the best of their farm system, also, which is what keeping Halladay in the AL East would necessitate.

As for the Mets, the Toronto official said there is "absolutely nothing" going on with them. The official also said there "is no truth to that" about a report saying the Mets had rejected a request of Fernando Martinez, Bobby Parnell, Jonathon Niese and Ruben Tejada. The official said the Blue Jays are still scouting organizations and have "not given names we want to anybody" yet.

In addition, the official anticipates that if Halladay were traded it would be for better than a deal that the official agreed was for a hitting prospect with suspect ability to stay healthy (Martinez), a not sure-thing late-inning reliever (Parnell), a back-end-of-the-rotation starter (Niese) and an all-field, questionable-hit shortstop (Tejada). Also many scouts now consider Jenrry Mejia, a Double-A starter, the Mets' best prospect and say to get a substantial player such as Halladay the 19-year-old righty would have to be included.

FTN wrote:

A Blue Jays official involved in the Roy Halladay discussions told The Post that both New York teams are not serious pursuers of the ace right-hander.

The official confirmed what several Yankee executives already had told the Post: That since an initial phone conversation about two weeks ago between Brian Cashman and his Blue Jays counterpart J.P. Ricciardi to let the Yankees know that Halladay is available there have been no further discussions. Yankees executives have told the Post that the finances in adding Halladay don't work, especially if it means giving up the best of their farm system, also, which is what keeping Halladay in the AL East would necessitate.

As for the Mets, the Toronto official said there is "absolutely nothing" going on with them. The official also said there "is no truth to that" about a report saying the Mets had rejected a request of Fernando Martinez, Bobby Parnell, Jonathon Niese and Ruben Tejada. The official said the Blue Jays are still scouting organizations and have "not given names we want to anybody" yet.

In addition, the official anticipates that if Halladay were traded it would be for better than a deal that the official agreed was for a hitting prospect with suspect ability to stay healthy (Martinez), a not sure-thing late-inning reliever (Parnell), a back-end-of-the-rotation starter (Niese) and an all-field, questionable-hit shortstop (Tejada). Also many scouts now consider Jenrry Mejia, a Double-A starter, the Mets' best prospect and say to get a substantial player such as Halladay the 19-year-old righty would have to be included.

- Joel Sherman

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/

drsmooth wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

drsmooth wrote:Not the off-topic economics thread, but if anyone is looking for expressions of the concept behavioral economists refer to as loss aversion - a tendency most of them claim is utterly hardwired into the mammalian information processing apparatus - well, you've come to the right place.

For those interested, I'm taking up a testicle collection in support of the acquire Halladay campaign. We're only asking for one.

Right, because a difference of opinion means someone is without balls. That makes sense. There's a logical argument for both sides. If I was without balls, I would have been against all the other trades I suggested or hoped would happen over the years. But never let common sense stand in the way of a good insult, I guess.

You have a persecution complex or something, because that post of mine did not refer to you specifically, and frankly I don't recall reading any of your posts here until this one.

How you read an insult into a placid observation about a nascent field of study concerning human decisionmaking behavior is quite beyond me.

FTN wrote:

uncle milt wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:Right, because a difference of opinion means someone is without balls. That makes sense. There's a logical argument for both sides. If I was without balls, I would have been against all the other trades I suggested or hoped would happen over the years. But never let common sense stand in the way of a good insult, I guess.

i miss buddygroom

traderdave wrote:Complete just off-the-cuff question here but I noticed in the "Trade Deadline" thread all the talk of Nationals' scouts following LV around the country. Is there any way a three-team deal between the Jays-Phils-Nationals could be in the works? It just seems like the Nationals and Phillies are odd trade partners independently.

Woody wrote:you're just being an over-literal and hyper-sensitive blockhead, that's all. s'okay, you still have your rock

If J.P. Ricciardi does deal Halladay, it'll presumably be for a boatful of prospects aimed at making the Blue Jays better in a season when, if things go according to form, Ricciardi will no longer actually be the team's GM. After all, while Ricciardi has an impressive record of developing guile-filled No. 4 starters, he's been pretty shaky in his nearly eight years in the job. Some of his dud moves include: signing Vernon Wells for seven years and $126 million, releasing Chris Carpenter, trading Raul Mondesi for Scott Wiggins, trading Felipe Lopez for Jason Arnold, trading Jayson Werth for Jason Frasor, trading Chad Gaudin for Dustin Majewski, spending a first-round pick on Russ Adams, spending a first-round pick on David Purcey, spending a second-round pick on Curtis Thigpen and signing B.J. Ryan for five years and $47 million. Yes, he did draft Adam Lind in the third round. Bully for him.

Yet here Ricciardi is, taking bids on Doc. How can a Jays fan not think this is going to get screwed up? Philadelphia could supposedly get a deal done right away if they'd include pitching prospect Kyle Drabek. They won't. Or else they will, and Drabek will refuse to report to Canada. Or the Jays will accidentally trade for Kyle's dad, Doug Drabek, who will still throw harder than two-fifths of the Toronto rotation.