MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL IN 2020 (RANDOM MLB THREAD)

by **MFP** » Mon Jun 01, 2020 17:47:37

SCPhillyPhan wrote:
MFP wrote:Cannot imagine siding with the owners in any part of this.

The only thing I see the owners side on the two proposals is the length of schedule. I do believe the owners that if they play in front of no fans, they will lose money as opposed to making money. But I've got to believe that playing the games will lose less money than not playing games at all. I'd counter with a 96 game season. 14 games against each of your division foes. 8 games against the opposite division. Yes, mostly 4 games series. Good for travel. If you want to bump it up to 100 games, play a couple of 2 game sets with more or less the two closest teams to you not in the East. Or whatever division you happen to be in.

Feels like one of two outcomes is likely at this point: Either there’s enough bad blood that there’s no season at all, or they come to an agreement on an 81-game schedule with pro-rated salaries.

by **mcare89** » Mon Jun 01, 2020 17:53:01

The middle ground to me has always been close to 81 games with full pro-rated salaries but with the ability to defer a fairly sizable portion of the salary without interest to reduce the value of them over time. The players still get what's owed to them, but the owners can recoup part of their losses through their own investments and pay it out after some kind of inflation, plus at a point where they'll presumably have more cash flow.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Jun 01, 2020 17:56:35

I don't think there's any reason to lose sleep over it. I'm confident the MLB owners will screw it up no matter what.

by **Rockinghorse** » Mon Jun 01, 2020 18:20:43

Pretty sure they already get bi-weekly checks, so no need to defer payments

by **SCPhillyPhan** » Mon Jun 01, 2020 20:30:54

Passan's article doesn't make it seem as dire as his tweet did.

Passan article

But I still say, if the owners try to unilaterally impose a 50 game season, there will be no season.

I think this was leaked as a scare tactic. It won't work. But nevertheless I do think there will be a compromise somewhere between 80 and 114. Based on the tenor of Passan's article I'd guess closer to 80.

by **swishnicholson** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:56:32

This article on Dan Kurtz (jurassic5) appeared in teh Delco times a couple weeks ago, but nice to see it in the print edition of the Inquirer this morning.

by **momadance** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 13:54:42

RIP Baseball.

@Joelsherman1
MLB has rejected the union’s 114-game regular season proposal. They plan no counter. They are sitting on essentially implementing a 48-54-game season for full prorated salaries or 82-ish at less than prorated, sources tell The Post

by **Slowhand** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 14:50:11

50 game season just isn't even worth the trouble.

by **SCPhillyPhan** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 15:03:56

JFLNYC wrote:I don't think there's any reason to lose sleep over it. I'm confident the MLB owners will screw it up no matter what.

by **Squire** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 15:06:14

SCPhillyPhan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:I don't think there's any reason to lose sleep over it. I'm confident the MLB owners will screw it up no matter what.

I wonder if this is one of those things where everyone hates "Congress" but seems to like their own Congressman. I mean, everyone seems to hate "the Owners" but this board has generally viewed Middleton as worthy of praise. Does his public personna take a hit if the season gets tanked??

by **Bill McNeal** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 15:13:53

Hard to say. With a Congress person you have more view into how they vote and statements made during public sessions. With this it’s all behind closed doors so unless they release some kind of voting results or whatever I don’t think it takes a hit, especially if he keeps paying minor leaguers and the non baseball staff. If he does cut into that stuff though he can and should take a hit.

by **Rockinghorse** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 15:44:17

Wasn't this an inevitable step in the final stretch of negotiations? Players said no to removing prorated salaries; owners said no on 114 games. So now they just have to agree on an acceptable midpoint, which presumably is greater than 50 but lower than 82. No reason that can't happen by some time this weekend.

by **rolex** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 16:52:47

Baseball is on the verge of once again becoming irrelevant. The NBA and NHL are warming up for a resumption of play followed by POs. The NFL is getting poised to return to TCs and then a season. MLB is going to become a, "who cares?" really soon. So they have a draft next week. If there isn't a season to go along with no minor league action, who cares about the sport?

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 18:17:28

It's funny how much I don't miss sports.

by **Stripes** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 19:06:23

Wolfgang622 wrote:It's funny how much I don't miss sports.

I cancelled all my cable except local channels, until baseball or college football resume. Looks as if CFB might beat baseball back.

by **PSUsarge** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 20:05:23

Rockinghorse wrote:Wasn't this an inevitable step in the final stretch of negotiations? Players said no to removing prorated salaries; owners said no on 114 games. So now they just have to agree on an acceptable midpoint, which presumably is greater than 50 but lower than 82. No reason that can't happen by some time this weekend.

This is where I'm at as well. Call it 65 games and let's play ball.

by **MoBettle** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 20:08:56

Wonder how much longer baseball can afford to have the Marlins and Pirates of the world around. The dead weight can’t be helping right now. Too many franchises just don’t care all that much.

by **Rev_Beezer** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 22:30:15

Really good roundtable discussion on The Athletic conducted by Doug Glanville regarding race.

Just wondering - does anybody else think Jimmy Rollins would be held in more esteem if he were a white man?

Especially given the idol worship that many give To Chase. I love the man, but Jimmy is seen in rural PA as a cocky black guy. He was an amazing shortstop for many years. It’s a shame.

by **mcare89** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 22:32:21

Rev_Beezer wrote:Really good roundtable discussion on The Athletic conducted by Doug Glanville regarding race.

Just wondering - does anybody else think Jimmy Rollins would be held in more esteem if he were a white man?

Especially given the idol worship that many give To Chase. I love the man, but Jimmy is seen in rural PA as a cocky black guy. He was an amazing shortstop for many years. It’s a shame.

I don't think there's any question about that.

by **Rev_Beezer** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 22:39:06

Really good roundtable discussion on The Athletic conducted by Doug Glanville regarding race.

Just wondering - does anybody else think Jimmy Rollins would be held in more esteem if he were a white man?

Especially given the idol worship that many give To Chase. I love the man, but Jimmy is seen in rural PA as a cocky black guy. He was an amazing shortstop for many years. It’s a shame.

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