Wait so when he was sweaty and gassed we think it is because he was high?

CalvinBall wrote:Wait so when he was sweaty and gassed we think it is because he was high?

I don't know about "high", but from the ESPN article (which is really good) linked by Pittfan a couple pages back:

Teammates recognized a change in his demeanor. He appeared glassy-eyed, would sweat easily, even in moderate temperatures, and at times, his speech was slow and labored.

"I could see the visible signs. There were days when I knew he was having to take pain medication because one of the adverse effects was the sweating. He profusely sweat."

I don't know anyone who could pitch a major league game inside of a MLB stadium in the summer and not sweat profusely, actually. Didn't Nolan Ryan once say he lost an average of 10-15 lbs of water weight during a game?

A sports physiology book (just googled) says that 5 lbs is average.

phillychuck wrote:I don't know anyone who could pitch a major league game inside of a MLB stadium in the summer and not sweat profusely, actually. Didn't Nolan Ryan one say he lost an average of 10-15 lbs of water weight during a game?

A sports physiology book (just googled) says that 5 lbs is average.

OK, but it was happening in moderate temperatures, and the inference from those quoted is that that was not the norm for him. Nolan Ryan also pitched a lot of games in hot ass Texas (OK, Houston had a dome at the time).

Gimpy wrote:Ten years ago today I posted on Facebook that the Phils scored in one of the last 47 innings.

BIG PELF goes 7 scoreless with 3 hits, 5 WALKS and 5 Ks.

FFS

Slowhand wrote:

phillychuck wrote:I don't know anyone who could pitch a major league game inside of a MLB stadium in the summer and not sweat profusely, actually. Didn't Nolan Ryan one say he lost an average of 10-15 lbs of water weight during a game?

A sports physiology book (just googled) says that 5 lbs is average.

OK, but it was happening in moderate temperatures, and the inference from those quoted is that that was not the norm for him. Nolan Ryan also pitched a lot of games in hot ass Texas (OK, Houston had a dome at the time).

Good points. I didn't know it was in moderate temps. Of course, anything over about 65 degrees has always seemed hot to me...

CalvinBall wrote:Wait so when he was sweaty and gassed we think it is because he was high?

There were a few times I legitimately thought he was pitching hungover he was so red and sweaty. And not on days that were 90 degrees plus.

Man that article is insane.

Getting hurt both playoff years man.

His wife went through a lot crazy.

And with any luck I'll never hear it...

Throw me in the camp of thinking that Chase was the player that Doc greatly respected who confronted him over it.

MoBettle wrote:Man that article is insane.

Getting hurt both playoff years man.

His wife went through a lot crazy.

All of this.

I also respect the hell out of her for putting all of this out in the open to make sure Roy's legacy isn't defined by the drugs and crash that ended it.

Might help others, too

Great article

In happier news, NBCSP is finally broadcasting the entire 2008 run in June:

https://twitter.com/NBCSPhilly/status/1 ... 96833?s=20

"You've asked for the games and we've got ‘em." - fuck off.

(Can't wait for this)

wonder if we inundate them enough they'll use the radio audio

this reminded me to check chris brock's wikipedia page. sho'nuff, someone had edited out the incident which defines his career (they left the footnote and just replaced the text). So I had to do my civic duty and put it back in (with a more comprehensive reference this time).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brock

never forget. also never forget the old school gameday page when everyone in spring training walked a guy on 4 pitches or struck out on 3

I remembered that I wasn't watching the game, but I forgot why, that it was the same night of Game 1 of the Flyers-Blackhawks Stanley Cup Finals. I remember just flipping over to the game at intermission not having a clue what was going on and it was the beginning of the 9th and everyone watching with me was just floored.